"Do you want a bowl of soup?"
Translation:Хочешь миску супа?
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would this be the correct answer be"Хочешь миску супа" instead of using тарелку? I thought тарелку meant plate...
I think тарелка is more commonly used in this context than миска. It can mean both plate and bowl.
The Russian take the soup with a plate, so it's a translation of an expression not by word.
But don't inanimate objects stay as is (nominative case) in accusative?
Not all of them do. The rule applies for masculine and neuter nouns. Миска is a feminine noun.
I was wondering this too but I confused an early question with bowl in the gen. when it was in the nom:
"миска (nom.) риса (gen. as it is 'some' rice)"
My question is, why isn't soup in the accusative too? Does the gen. take priority or are "a bowl" and "of soup" somehow separate.
Actually, both "тарелка" and "миска" have simillar meaning. But "миска" is just slightly more deep than "тарелка".
I've been slapped on the fingers for using 'тарелка' instead of 'миска'… so this time I used 'миска', just to be slapped again...
So soup is in the genitive because of the partitive used here even though with soup being inanimate it would have been left in the nominative otherwise, correct?
Spot on. If soup were the direct object (instead of the bowl) it would be in accusative, which since it is an inanimate masculine noun is the same as nominative. But since soup is partitive it is in genitive (like in English where we say a bowl OF soup).
" моя сестра есть суп" and "хочешь тарелку супа" what makes that суп is not writen the same?
- Genitive affirmative sentence structure will keep soup in the Nominative form.
- The plate is the possessor of the soup so it is Nominative, but the soup belongs to the plate so it becomes Accusitive formation
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"Хочешь тарелку супа", is the sentence Duo wanted. I would have thought Вы или Ты would be needed here, to make sense. Also wondering, if I was to visit a shop that sold kitchen wares and say "Я хочу тарелки пожалуйста", how would they distinguish between plates and bowls? I'm sorry if this is a silly question, but I am far more interested in understanding than I am in achieving levels. Thanks in advance for any responses.
It seems that you can sometimes drop pronouns, but as a learner it's generally safer not to. Other languages (Italian, Spanish, Portuguese?) almost always omit pronouns, English almost never does, Russian is somewhere in between.
And in the latter case, be aware that тарелки only refers to shallow bowls, or what are sometimes called "soup plates". It doesn't refer to deep bowls like mixing bowls, those are миски.
But like in any language, if there is any ambiguity, I'm sure the shop attendant would simply ask. A quick Google search suggests that мелкое/глубокие тарелки ("shallow/deep dishes") seems to adequately capture the distinction, although I'm not sure these are the adjectives that a native speaker would use.
Deep plates are what they consider a 'Bowl' for soup. Миска is the word for Bowl, but it is a cooking/storage item moor then something to eat from.
Actually, супа is in genitive because it is a bowl OF soup. That is, bowl is the direct object, so it's in accusative. "Of soup" describes the bowl, so in Russian we express this as "soup" in genitive.
Why is ты dropped?
i believe because хочешь is in 2nd person singular tense it becomes redundant... someone correct me if I'm wrong
In the multiple choice version, "Ты" isn't even an option. Is there a reason for that? Because "you" is in the question.
Would "ты хочешь тарелку супу" be correct? It notes it as correct and gives an alternative correct response. Just want to clarify
