"Этот храм был построен пятьсот лет назад."

Translation:This temple was built five hundred years ago.

December 7, 2015

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I have a question not related to the word used for "church". :) Is "был" need here? In a previous sentence, "построен" was used on its own to mean the same thing.


Same question as a few above, but do we absolutely need был in this sentence considering the пятьсот лет назад already giving an indication of tense?


Looking at you, St. Basil's.


I thought храм could be translated as cathedral. Например, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Basil's_Cathedral The Russian wikipedia page won't paste into here, but I'm pretty sure many Russian cathedrals are called храмы. I didn't report it because I was absolutely sure. It was the only thing marked incorrect in my translation. Thank you.


"храм" (temple) is the general name for religious buildings.

"церковь" (church) is a Christian temple (usually Orthodox)

"собор" (cathedral) is a large church

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    BTW, how do you use костёл? I tend to use it for all the Roman Catholic Churches, but I think people from Russia only use it for Polish churches? Would you use костёл to describe a church in Lisbon? (I personally would.)


    I would use "костёл" for Polish churches, "кирха" for German and "собор/храм" for others :)


    but it doesn't accept temple -.-

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    "This temple was built five hundred years ago" is accepted - I've just checked. You must have made a mistake elsewhere.

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      The usual Russian name of Saint Basil's Cathedral is Собо́р Василия Блаженного, not Храм Василия Блаженного. While собо́р is definitely a type of храм (so you can call it Храм Василия Блаженного too), I doubt it makes a good translation.


      My speculation would be that Russians prefer calling orthodox churches "храмы", whilst catholic churches are usually called "соборы". And since there's no indication as to what kind of a "храм" is implied in this case, I don't see why 'cathedral' shouldn't be accepted as a viable translation.

      Saint Basil may have not quite proved this point, but take Храм Христа Спасителя, for instance - its official name in English is The Cathedral of Christ the Saviour.

      I'm with Alf42. 'This cathedral was built five hundred years ago' should be accepted.


      According to a Russian Orthodoxy site, xрам is a place of worship. Собор is generally the main church in a town or monastery. Храм and собор come from different Old Church Slavic roots. When I have time I'll pull out my OCS materials and dictionary and look up their origins. церковь has a different architecture and is used for Catholic, Lutheran, and other churches. Это Католическая церковь и не собор.


      Look it up in Russian wikipedia. It's xpam.

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        Храм is given in brackets, with собор given as the main name:

        screenshot of the Russian wikipedia

        But the example with Cathedral of Christ the Saviour is indeed compelling. Looks like it's originally «собо́рный храм» (which is the same as «собо́р») but it gets shortened to «храм» and not to «собо́р». I guess the short version of the name to be used depends on the exact cathedral in question.

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        It does depend on the church. In St. Petersburg, there is Исаакиевский Собор & Храм Спаса на Крови. If you swap "собор" & "храм" in their names, you'll sound foreign (or at least as someone from out of town).


        Sorry, I should have been more explicit. That would be for Khram Vasiliy Blazhennovo.


        Храм can be used not only for Christian temple. Языческий храм - a pagan temple


        Martinope's Question aswell, cqan i say этот храс построен or do i need был построен


        So, построен is the short form past passive of построенный, the particle of построить, to build. (Sounds like biblical lineage. lol) My question is where do you like to find the short forms? They aren't in my 501 verbs or verb conjugation sites. This particular adj didn't show in the adj site i like. Can any of the particles be made short this way?


        There’s a great online dictionary which has recently added participles including short forms https://en.openrussian.org/ru/построенный

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