https://www.duolingo.com/Nielzke23

C'est vs. est

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Recently I've come across a sentence like: ''Huit c'est le double de quatre'' I was wondering why it would be ''c'est'' instead of ''est'', in the discussion of the sentence someone stated that because it isn't a subject - object thing, you use ''c'est''. Could maybe someone explain this more precisely and could '''huit est le double de quatre'' also be correct?

3 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Nokurkan
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French speaker !

Repeting the subject by adding a "ce" is just a bad speaking habit. You'll more often hear a kid saying : "Le chocolat c' est bon!" than "Le chocolat est bon!".

It's accepted when speaking but it's better not to do this in writing.

More examples :

  • Lui et elle ce sont les plus intelligents. => He and she are the smarter ones.

  • Cette voiture c'est celle de mon père. => This car is my father's one.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lrtward
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Wait, are those "more examples" (Lui et elle ce sont, Cette voiture c'est) examples of how NOT to do it? Examples of how adding "ce" is a bad speaking habit?

Little kids (well, and some adults) do the same thing in English:
Bob and I, we went to the movies.
Susan and Fred, they are smart.
I can remember my mother saying "It's not 'My sister and I we!' It's just 'My sister and I!'" :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nokurkan
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Yes that's it, they are some examples of how they would be said when speaking.

And, I didn't know that in English too, good to know!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nate1016
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Could you help me with my French? Via WhatsApp or Duolingo stream? I'd really appreciate it!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nokurkan
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Yeah with pleasure! However I currently am in review period and my exams end on Tuesday (next week). But I will be completely available from that day.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nate1016
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Thank you, do you have a whatsapp?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nokurkan
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No I'don't. :/

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lrtward
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C'est vs. Il est is really complicated and I don't think I will ever get the hang of it.

Here is some light reading on the subject for you .
http://french.about.com/library/weekly/aa032500.htm

Also here is a thread with information about a lot of demonstratives.
https://api.duolingo.com/comment/7682738

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nate1016
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I don't think I'll ever get it as well. I thought it went something like, if there's an adjective before the noun then it'd be c'est... I just don't know.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/A_User
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Thanks for the link, Lrtward! Demonstratives are beyond my comprehension, we'll see if this helps. :-)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Epoxy34

Here's some help http://bit.ly/1Rot1OQ :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/petitpixie

HI I am new here but this is what I have found - it is not an object or person, as in solid you are talking about numbers which could be seen as a concept/idea and so has no physical presence. If I have got this completely wrong then please correct me as I am just learning too. Good luck Nielzke23

3 years ago
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