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The Possessives are driving me insane.

I am so confused... I don't know when I should put D' or do... A húll, a úll... Is there something I am missing out on...? How did you guys master your possessives?

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Rejistania
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You definitely need to get out of the app and read the lesson on it. Basically lentition and eclipsis running WILD!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scilling
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This page at Gramadach na Gaeilge might reduce your confusion.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Eikoopmit

You use "d'úll" instead of "do úll" because it sounds better, like how in English you say "an elephant" as opposed to "a elephant". The same thing applies to "mo" and "m'". "A húll" and "a úll" mean two different things; one means "his apple" while the other means "her apple", although I keep getting confused as to which one is which.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SilverDolphin218

D' is for a word that starts with a vowel, Do is for a word that doesn't start with a vowel. EG: Do chota, d'oráiste

Basically, the two tables of possessives are as follows:

CONSONANTS:

Mo+ séimhú (SP?) (h)- my (Mo chóta)

Do+ Séimhú- your (sing.) (Do chóta)

A+ Séimhú- his (A chóta)

A+ Nothing- her (A cóta)

Ár+ urú- our (Ár gcótaí)

Bhur+ urú- your (pl.) (Bhur gcótaí)

A+ urú- their (A gcótaí)

VOWELS:

M'+ Séimhú- my (m'úll)

D'+ Séimhú- your (sing.) (d'úll)

A+ Nothing- his (A úll)

A+Séimhú- hers (A húll)

Ár+ n- ours (Ár n-úll)

Bhur+ n- your (pl.) (Bhur n-úll)

A+ n- their (A n-úll)

I think one of the Duolingo modules has a list of urús under the lesson introduction page, but in case they don't, here is a list of urús:

B: m

C: g

D: n

F: bh

G: n

P: b

T: d

Oh, and vowels always take n as their urú. Hope it helped! ;)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Pancakes-R-Us

It did! Thanks

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SilverDolphin218

No problem! As they say, teaching is the best form of learning! ;)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PookaGar
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Lenition is séimhiú, with that extra "i" in there. (Pronounced kind of like "shave you"; the mnemonic I like to use for distinguishing the a possessive is "he shaves, she doesn't." If it has lenition, it's "his"; if not, it's "her.")

Also, the urú for "d" is "nd", not "D"!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SilverDolphin218

@PookaGar: Oops- I must have deleted the wrong thing! I meant to put the n, but I accidentally deleted the n! Sorry about that! Also, I know about séimhiú- it was drilled into me when I studied Irish in school.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PookaGar
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Just mentioning it because you marked it with a "sp?", and also because I wanted to show off that mnemonic. I'm unreasonably pleased by it. ^__^

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SilverDolphin218

That's actually a great mnemonic to use- I might try it! You should be pleased! ;) It's been a year and a half since I studied Irish properly in school, but I still remember the possessives. My Irish teacher was very keen on teaching them to us! She was a fantastic teacher. :)

2 years ago