"I did not say that."
Translation:Я этого не говорил.
Yes, the accusative doesn't sound natural here. This makes me think of the way "de" is used in French. In a negation: j'ai un stylo -> je n'ai pas de stylo (у меня есть ручка - у меня нет ручки). Or for the ordinary genitive: la voiture de mon frère (машина моего брата). Putting aside rules and just looking at the usage you sometimes can notice some curious similarities:)
That's an awesome observation, I didn't realize how deep the link between "de" and Russian genitive is! There's even the partitive role that "de" is primarily known for: "donne-moi l'eau" -> «дай мне воду» but "donne-moi de l'eau" -> «дай мне воды». This could come handy for intuition purposes, I'll need to do some research to see how far this parallel goes :-)
In Old French the prepositions de and ad (related to Modern French à) were used to introduce a case called prepositional genitive directly inherited from Latin genitive, so this isn't just a coincidence :-)
Modern French having lost the morphological distinction between the nominative and its oblique forms (except, interestingly, in some pronouns: je [nominative] / me [dative] / moi [accusative] for example) doesn't mean the cases aren't still present in the actual grammar! And since both Russian and French ultimately stem from Proto-Indo-European, it stands to reason that their cases share a lot of uses.
Seems I got caught off guard by the beautifully complex rules of genitive as a direct object yet again. According to szeraja_zhaba's awesome translation of a Gramota.ru article on the topic found in this thread, you should use genitive for a pronoun when it depends on an antecedent as here. I swear I'll remember those someday.
"етого"(yetogo/yetovo) is the wrong writing of "этого". "етого" and "ентого"(yentogo/yentovo) are mostly used in an ironic context. Russian has a vague word sequence, that means both sentences means exactly the same thing, and can be used just for a change.
You can also say
Не говорил я этого.
Этого я не говорил.
Этого не говорил я
Unfortunately, you don't. Russian has been moving away from that for quite a while.
Some verbs always do that: you always switch to the Genitive when the verb is negated (e.g. "иметь" —the formal verb for "to have"). Such use is also associated with more affirmative and strong negative. Verbs with abstract objects often do that, too (e.g. "не обращать внимания" ~ "to pay no attention").
Other than that, we use the Accusative by default. It is just that "это" is a fairly generic word and sounds a bit more natural here in the Genitive.
Wow! I noticed that, as some have mentioned, it also accepts это as an alternative to этого. Sure enough, looking at the conjugation of этот in Wiktionary, the accusative form actually depends on whether it refers to a masculine animate or inanimate noun, or to something else (masculine inanimate would be этот, while neuter and feminine nouns don't care about animate vs. inanimate). I guess the underlying noun in this case could be thought of as either masculine or neuter (or even feminine??), and perhaps as either animate or inanimate! The этого choice implies the referent is a masculine animate noun, though (it would be этот if inanimate masculine). Using это actually implies it's neuter, in which case it actually is the same whether animate or inanimate. Since it accepts это, does anyone know if it would be technically wrong to use, say, эту, for a feminine referent (either animate or inanimate)? It seems like an implicit referent would be "something that you say," or "то, что вы говорите," and the choice would depend on the animateness and gender of "something" (i.e. of the "то")? I guess since that's neuter, это is more correct, and we're spared from having to decide if it's animate or not... Linguists??
It is just the Genitive form. In Slavic languages, Accusative objects of negated verbs often switched to the Genitive. However, in modern Russian this is generally not the case.
Some verbs often use the Genitive when negated, especially more abstract verbs with abstract uncountable objects (e.g., "не обращать внимания"="to not pay any attention"). Sometimes is makes for a stronger negation.
Это and то are somewhat more affected with verbs like "see", "hear" or "know" than normal nouns. A native speaker might use "Я не понимаю этих докладов" occasionally but "Я этого не понимаю" is very common in comparison.
It was much more consistent in 19th century literature, but not 100 % Genitive even then:
- Пожалуйста, не задержите ответа.
- Природа действовала на меня чрезвычайно, но я не любил так называемых её красот, необыкновенных гор, утёсов, водопадов.
- ... сказал я по-французски, чтобы не понял нашего разговора [Денисевич], который не знал этого языка.
- Если я сегодня ему стула не уступил, так в другой раз я ему, пожалуй, десять стульев уступлю.
- Я не знаю той максимальной суммы, которую Вы хотите затратить ...
- Лёд крепок и глубок; нужно его скалывать и тотчас же уносить куски далеко в сторону, чтобы не загромождать площади.
Oh! So I guess I was barking up the wrong tree... DL is actually accepting either the genitive этого here, following this fading pattern from traditional Slavic grammar, OR это, the accusative (mimicking nominative) that is more consistent with the way the underlying noun would be treated, since both are common in modern Russian? I'm guessing это is a form of этот, at least in origin, but is it somewhat different in this very common meaning of this/that, which no longer changes with the referent's gender?
For people asking about этого genitive vs это accustive, the latter being what we would normally expect here, from what I've read on the forums, there are at least two situations where the genetive is used where we would expect the accustive (namely, for a noun acting as a direct object):
Partitive role: by now in the course, Duo has already established this to us rather clearly. When it comes to food/drink, when you mean "SOME food," without being particular as to which specific sample or specimen of food, you use the genetive. To not use the genetive here is basically to use the definite article.
Я хочу воды = i want some water. Я хочу воду = i want the water.
Negative abstract role: I've only encountered one discussion about this, but i believe it pertains here. When the direct object is abstract (non tangible, non sensible), and is receiving a NEGATED verb, it is put into the genetive. Obviously, here in this exercise, whatever the speaker didn't say is being treated as abstract, and is put as genetive.
What really eludes me here is the use of готовить as opposed to сказать.