"Those people"

Translation: Tamci ludzie

[NataliaSuska]

What about "Tamte ludzie" ?

[vytah]

Ludzie is a masculine personal noun, you use masculine personal forms, which usually end in -i, sometimes -y.

[NataliaSuska]

So would I only use "tamte" for feminine nouns?

[vytah]

For masculine non-personal, all feminine and all neuter.

[uq.]

wow that's surprisingly simple

[sammee514]

Thanks for the clarification, this is really helpful!

[EmiliaMiciak]

I would add "Ci ludzie" as well. (I'm polish and taking the exam for fun lmao) "Ci" is just a shorter form of "Tamci".

[kirobug]

Wait, isn't "ci" these and "tamci" those?

[EmiliaMiciak]

You may be right. I never really thought about this. But many people use "ci" and "tamci" interchangeably. Maybe it's a mistake on our side.

[Mrocznooki]

It's wrong. I cannot give you exact rule, but "tamte" is used for non personal "tamte drzewa" or feminine "tamte dziewczyny". https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Polish_pronouns#Demonstrative_pronouns:_ten.2C_tamten

[wiktorka234]

Ten zwrot przypomina mnie o piosence Anny Jantar: gdzie są dzisiaj tamci ludzie :) Jak widzę ten zwrot, myślę o tamtej piosence. :)

[Arnoldpitt]

czlowniki ?

[alik1989]

It's weird, I know, but the only correct plural form of człowiek is ludzie.

[Jellei]

And if it was regular, it would be "człowieki". But that's only found in the Polish version of DreamWorks' "Madagascar" franchise.

[Yulya164743]

I am confused when we use Ci and Te in the plural. As far as I understood they both mean these

[Jellei]

Yes. But "ci" is for the 'masculine personal plural' (or 'virile'), while "te" is for 'not masculine-personal plural' (or 'non-virile').

The first one is used for plurals of nouns that denote men, the second for any other plural.

So "ci ludzie" (these people), "ci mężczyźni" (these men), "ci policjanci" (those policemen), but "te kobiety" (these women), "te policjantki" (these policewomen), "te koty" (these cats), "te domy" (these houses), etc.