"To idealne dziecko jest w idealnej szkole."
Translation:This perfect child is in a perfect school.
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There are two things that do not exist—a perfect child and a perfect school; in fact in an universe of chance perfection does not exits.
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Does it also mean "ideal" as in a "perfect imaginary model that does not exist in reality"? That phrase would be perfect to complain that some example is just not for the real world.
No. It means that something is perfect but not imaginary. There is also „ideowy” meaning ideological. To render it we would probably go with: „modelowy”, „wzorcowy”, „koncepcyjny”, „odniesienia/referencyjny”.
I typed "the ideal child in the ideal school" and got flagged for a missing "is" BUT the suggested solution had "child's" with the idea of a contraction of "child is." Can you contract "child is" into "child's"?
I think in English 'ideal' and 'perfect' are similar but not exactly the same, at least in that there are contexts where interchanging them would sound weird. Duolingo is accepting "idealne" as either "ideal" or "perfect." Is there a distinction?
There's also "perfekcyjne" for "perfect", but "idealne" seems better in the Polish sentence and "perfect" in the English one.
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I typed "This is a perfect child in perfect school" and was marked wrong. In english , it should say a perfect school. But apart from tgat, the solution "This perfect chils is in a perfect school " is different in meaning to my wrong answer as well.
Could someone please explain how the two different meanings would be said in Polish ?
Thank you very much !
I believe that the difference would be that the word "jest" would migrate to the beginning of the sentence, just after the "To", much the same as you have moved the word "is" up to just after the "This".
You mean, like, "on the roof of a school", like Lyra Belacqua?
I have heard Polish people say many times something sounding similiar to "perfect!", so I thought the English word "perfect" had a pretty similar literal translation in Polish. But it seems I was wrong and they were just using English. How would "perfect!" would be in Polish then?
There's also "perfekcyjny", but it just doesn't seem to work neither with "dziecko" nor "szkoła". I'm not sure why, though.
Is "idealne" rather perfect than ideal? Have somebody a clue for me? :)
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I would argue that they're synonyms.
The phrase "In an ideal world..." is what makes me think that.
I'm not a mod though.
I guess both can translate to "idealny", although it also may be a matter of collocations.
there is a bug here. i typed " to idealny dziecko jest w idealne szkole" and it scored as correct.
Your sentence has an implied conjunction: "It is ideal (that)...".
Such conjunctions can't be omitted in Polish, therefore the original sentence does not have this meaning.
I see "child's" as a possible answer, not "childs", which isn't a word, let alone a plural, anyway. Any chance of a screenshot?
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Sorry, I just did a 'copy and paste' of the correction...no screenshot. Found it odd enough to look in here.
Duolingo has problems with apostrophes, so I can believe there was some bug that could display something like that to you :| But frankly, I don't think we're able to do anything about it...
Sometimes a child finds a school which is just right for them and are just right for the school.
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Is there something wrong with the audio?
It sounds like the word "idealne" and "idealnej" is stretched out or does it have a "long 'l'" sound?
There is certainly a quite heavy stress around the "al" of those two words, but putting the IPA /i.dɛˈal.nɛ/ from https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/idealne through an IPA player doesn't sound that different, at least to me.
Let's see what a Polish native speaker says.....
I think the audio is fine here. The /a/ happens to be part of the penultimate syllable, which is usually stressed. And stressed vowels are a bit longer than unstressed ones.
