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Scots Gaelic?

I have a greater interest in learning Scots Gaelic as opposed to one of the Irish dialects. I understand spelling and pronunciation vary greatly between the Scottish and Irish versions.

I've been dabbling on a site dedicated to Scots Gaelic; however, the tools are not nearly as well designed as DuoLingo (although Duo's Irish course is lacking compared to others). Does anyone know if there are plans to add a Scots version?

Secondly, Scots Gaelic is not available in Rosetta Stone software, only Irish is. Does anyone know if they plan to add that, too?

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Josh.Hogan
Josh.Hogan
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I don't know if you've heard of Sabhal Mòr Ostaig at the University of the Highlands and Islands. Prof. Boyd Robertson (the head of this all Scottish Gaelic school) has a book titled "Teach Yourself Gaelic." Might be a place to check out some of the available resources.

http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/en/colaiste/luchd-obrach/an-t-oll-boyd-robasdan

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Josh.Hogan
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2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/moloughl
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I came across this website for learning Scots Gaelic.
Also here are links to an Irish-English dictionary from 1817 and 1864 which double up as a Scots Gaelic - English dictionary according to the author.
The first is by Edward O'Reilly and was published in 1817 and can be downloaded from here.
The second is an updated version of the first by John O'Donovan. It was published in 1864 and can be downloaded from here.
In both cases scroll down the page until you see the download options.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/proinsias123

Irish isn't a dialect of any language; Scottish Gaelic and Manx Gaelic came from Irish. I think the Irish course on here is one of the better courses available. One of the only big complaints is the audio, and new, better audio is already recorded and will hopefully be released soon with the tree 2.0. It's unlikely that Scottish Gaelic will get it's own course on here any time soon, especially since Welsh, another Celtic language, is soon to be released. Your best bet would be to get in contact with some native Scottish Gaelic speakers and see if they would be willing to give their time to a course, but even that will likely lead to nothing, based on what others have said of their experience doing the same thing.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/idshanks
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It's worth making the distinction that Gaelic & Manx don't come from ‘Irish’ as such, but rather that Gaelic, Manx & Irish all derive from Middle Irish (to put it roughly). It's an important distinction because it places an emphasis on from where many of the notable variations between the three begin to form - in essence they are all Middle Irish languages having undergone their own maturation, retaining different features.

Should you opt for the definition of ‘dialect’ being ‘derived of another language’ or something related to derivitiveness in such a manner, then the three are best described as dialects of Middle Irish. That said, I think ‘dialect’ is better understood as almost a continuum within a language (which includes prestige and standardised forms rather than pedestalises them), rather than to describe children of a shared parent (which is often the layman's understanding and yet is slightly misleading).

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/proinsias123

Yes, you're right. The posters comment might imply that Irish was a dialect of Scottish Gaelic, so I was just trying to emphasise that it wasn't. You're right, though.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/idshanks
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Rosetta Stone has been cutting support for languages in recent years as opposed to expanding it, so the probable answer is that no, they won't add a Gaelic course. There are no publically known plans for a Scottish Gaelic course on Duolingo so far. Encourage any Gaelic speakers you know to apply in the meantime. They'll probably get around to it eventually, but chances are it's a fair wee bit beyond the immediate future. :S

Currently, there is a good list of online resources to be found here: http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/gaidhlig/ionnsachadh/

I particularly like this site, as though the formatting is pretty poor, the content is very good: http://www.taic.me.uk/taic.htm

I'd also recommend the Teach Yourself Complete Gaelic book, which comes with two CDs, and Blas na Gàidhlig, an excellent book covering everything pronunciation (the latter is probably my joint favourite Gaelic resource alongside taic.me.uk).

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/enterthedarkside

I would love to take a Scots Gaelic course!

1 year ago