1. Forum
  2. >
  3. Topic: Russian
  4. >
  5. "У мамы нет собаки."

"У мамы нет собаки."

Translation:Mom does not have a dog.

December 14, 2015



The word by word translation told me dogs.


That's because "собаки" is both the nominative plural form of 'dog' and also the genitive singular form of 'dog'. I added a new hint to make it less confusing for you :) But also, try to remember that genitive case follows "нет", so "Mom does not have dogs." would translate to "У мамы нет собак."


Yes, I think I am starting to understand the Russian way of thinking. in french it it easier to understand. it would literally translate :as:de la mere pas de chien., thus the genitive case. I am studying Russian on the english basis though I am a French-speaking Swiss living in South America since 1992. I am 76.


But shouldn't "dogs" be right either way as when it comes to negations whether you put it in plural or singular is kinda irrelevant?


Well, as in English you can say either in Russian. У мамы нет собаки - Mom does not have a dog. У мамы нет собак - Mom does not have dogs. While the difference is minimal, it's better to use the one that was actually said.


Thanks a lot. I just dug into Russian grammar and saw that NET always needs the genitiv case. So, I will try not to forget it in future.


But how do i know which one they mean? :/


that was VERY helpful!


yes, you are correst, NET must be followed by the genitive case. I just realized it yesterday. It's like in German, where " durch - fuer - gegen - ohne - um - must be followed by the accusative, wegen, trotzdem etc. by the genitive and aus - bei, mit ,nach, seit ,von, zu ,either by the dativ or accusative according to the sentence. So I will have to look for these Russian terms and see what case they need and learn them by heart like I did with German when I was in primary school in Switzerland 67 years ago ( i am from the french-speaking part of Switzerland).


Merci de faire le parallèle. Ca rend les choses plus simples! Courage!


But I thought only the owner is put into the Genitive case. Is it all nouns?


Собак? I thought there was a special -ov/-ev ending?


No, there isn't.


Ml mộ mkmk nooli..k... Mm mkmno


These comments are great, but Duolingo doesn't teach what genitive cases are. Or anything about cases. The sections are labeled as such but there are no explanations. Duolingo may be great as a refresher or vocabulary teacher, but it fails to truly teach a language if it doesn't describe what's going on.


Have you seen the Tips & Notes at the start of each lesson? I think Duo actually does a pretty good job with Russian. Though maybe in the app it doesn't have Tips & Notes?


the app has no Tips & Notes, which is a huge letdown tbh


Can someone verify me? just trying to make sure I understand correctly: мама turns to genitive мамы due to possesion and собака turns to genitive собаки because of negation (does not have)?

[deactivated user]

    You are right


    Mum has no dawg. Accepted 28/9/19


    Why is it not собакы if the nominative ends with a? Isn't that the rule for genitives?

    [deactivated user]

      You don't use ы after к it's и instead


      How would you write: "Mom does not have dogs" -- i.e.: the plural of dogs if the plural of the nominative is the genitive. Is there another plural specially for the genitive?


      Plural of dogs would be "У мамы нет собак"


      Also, humorously google translates this as "My mother is not a dog". Isn't this more correct?

      And if it isn't, how would you say, "My mom is no dog!"


      This is even sadder than the child that has no mom.


      I always feel bad for these poor mother and fatherless Duo kids!


      Why мамы nor мама?


      The grammar is мама (subject), but у мамы. We use a genitive case for possession, which literally means "by mom". Using a literal verb for "have" doesn't work here.


      From what I've read, proper nouns are capitalized in Russian. So "мамы" should be capitalized in this sentence.


      No, it shouldn't. The definition of a "proper noun" is different between English and Russian.


      Interesting. Do you have a source where I can read more about this?

      • 2138

      Mom have no dog. - Why not accepted?


      In this sentence, the verb "to have" must be conjugated in present tense with mom as the subject. Mom has no dog. Conjugation examples follow I have a dog You have a dog She/he (mom) has a dog We have a dog They have a dog

      Hope that helps!


      I wrote "mom does not have a dog". Are we taking off for capitals now?


      Why: "mom does not have the dog" is not accepted?


      "Mom does not have the dog" should have been accepted, but want.

      Learn Russian in just 5 minutes a day. For free.