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"Czy to ptak? Czy to samolot?"

Translation:Is it a bird? Is it a plane?

December 15, 2015



Nie! To Super Pies!


Czy to ptak? Czy to samolot? Nie! To Superpies!

This Polish stamp (~1964) shows Łajka, the first dog in space, together with her rocket and launching tower.

"A yis! I remember eet vell!" ~ Maurice Chevalier


As do I! But why is she "Łajka" in Polish, and not "Lajka" which was her Russian name? ("Лайка")?


Literę л oddajemy przez: 1) l – przed е, ё, и, ь, ю, я, np. левый – lewyj, лёд – lod, липa – lipa, моль – mol, любой – luboj, Ляля – Lala; 2) ł – przed spółgłoskami, przed samogłoskami а, о, у, ы oraz na końcu wyrazu, np. долгий – dołgij, лaпa – łapa, лоза – łoza, лук – łuk, лысый – łysyj, стол – stoł.

That's from the rules of transcriptio from Russian into Polish.

I've heard my parents' generations pronounce Л as Ł a lot, but what I learned from Russian native speakers is that it's not correct...


My town (Dortmund / Germany) is now quite international; on public transport I often hear Slavic languages spoken. I quickly identify Polish from the ł sound (and the 'French' ą and ę ) apparently missing from the others.


I find "tak" is a fairly safe identifier here in London.


I can believe that. But remember that this word – meaning "yes" – also exists at least in Ukrainian, and meaning "like so" in other Slavic languages.


As it happens, I attended language classes at work to keep my French and German "up to speed". The French teacher was actually a Polish gentleman who'd lived in the U.K. for a very long time, and I was struck by his pronunciation of "Glasnost" as though it was "Gwasnost" (I knew nothing of Polish at that time, but now realise that he was following the rules you gave above).


My guess is that the transcription rules Jellei mentioned are... a little "outdated". In Polish the formal pronunciation of the letter Ł was different until around mid 20th century and it was actually the same as the Russian Л (the current version exist much longer than that, of course, but it was fully accepted relatively recently). You can still hear it in old audio recordings, and sometimes from old people, especially living in the east.

Today we don't have an equivalent sound in Polish, but we still use Ł in the transcription. Most people will pronounce it wrong as a result, but at least it's still recognizable to experts.


To Super Mężczyzna!


Jest Supermanem.


Why was the first person so excited for a bird anyways?


"Nie, to Twister!" - Chubby Checker


ptak czy tak dopiero na wolnym zrozumiałem


Nie, to jest Superman (tm DC comics)


An old tv show, the answer was ,It's Superman.


I do not know why I am wrong I wrote Is it a bird Is it an airplane


Well, the correct answer is two sentences, each with "?", but I think your answer should work because I don't think that Duo cares too much about punctuation...

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