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- "Ona nosi sukienkę."
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1955
For the pronunciation, in "nosi" the s sounds like /sh/ but in "sukienkę" it sounds like /s/. Is this the normal rule for Polish?
Yes, the rule is that consonant get palatalized with" i". Check out this sounds in the words we already had in this course: the sound "ci" in the word ciasteczka http://forvo.com/word/ciasteczka/#pl the sound "ni" in the word oni http://forvo.com/word/oni/#pl the sounds "dzi" and "ci" in the word dzieci http://forvo.com/word/dzieci/#pl the sound "zi" in duzi http://forvo.com/word/duzi/
The sound "si" (longer) or "ś" (shorter) don't exist in English and it's bit different than sz /sz/. It's very soft. Check out in those words: śnieg (snow): http://forvo.com/word/%C5%9Bnieg/#pl śmiech (laughter) http://forvo.com/word/%C5%9Bmiech/#pl siostra http://forvo.com/word/siostra/#pl
Isn't "she wears a dress" the same as "she is wearing a dress", which was cosidered incorrect as my answer.
"nosić" in 3rd (on/ona/ono - he/she/it) singular form is "nosi". "noszę" is 1st singular form.
I also find it very confusing, why it's wrong here but in every other example like "Ja jem jablko", they allow us to answer "I am eating an apple".
But to see their explanation on this, look at this link: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/27628688
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Most Polish verbs, just like the verb "jeść" (to eat), behave in a way, that, depending on the context, they can be translated into forms used in the English Present Simple tense or Present Continuous.
The verb "nosić" is a rare exception. It refers to the regular, usual, daily use of clothes, but NOT to the situation which is most often associated with the use of the Present Continuous aspect, that is
to the present moment. To say the girl has the dress on now, as
we speak, the expression: "(Ona) Ma na sobie sukienkę" is used.
Some Polish speakers have really hard time understanding it is correct to say in English "She is (always) wearing a dress" when referring to the regular, usual or habitual wearing of a dress (Progressive aspect of the verb used to describe continuity of wearing a dress)... This might be the source of confusion here.
No matter how awkward it seems to look, the sentence "She is wearing a dress" may, in fact, mean "Ona nosi sukienkę", as
both sentences may refer to the regular, habitual use of a dress.
- 1955
Unfortunately it's just going to take constant repetition to make the word sink in. If you're having trouble with a bunch of words, I'd recommend picking up a Memrise course or an Anki deck. Good luck!
I could swear the tts is pronouncing "sukienkę" the same way as "sukienka", is it right? I also decided to check on forvo (https://forvo.com/word/sukienkę/#pl) and it seems to me the ponunciation sounds like "sukienką" there. Am I mishearing things? How to pronounce it right? I am confused.
I hear a plain "e" at the end, which is a normal way of pronouncing "ę" at the end of a word. Otherwise, it's more like "eu" (Spanish "Europa", for example). It's a nasalized "e".
And the forvo link makes the "ę" sound clear.
The grammatical person. "nosi" is 3rd person singular, "noszę" is 1st person singular.
"sukienka" - the basic, Nominative form, used mostly as the subject of the sentence.
"sukienkę" - the Accusative form, used for the direct object of the sentence.
