"Мама делает сок."

Translation:Mom makes juice.

December 17, 2015

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ericzyko

Why "Mom is making juice" marked wrong?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ruscion

This is accepted as of May 1st 2018.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JusteArlem

Wouldn't готовить be more suited than делать?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/johnny_MMX

not in this case. ГОТОВИТЬ usually relates to cooking and frying


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SergejKos

Hmhm. Готовить уроки, готовить отчет, готовить наступление? :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MarshaMcLean

Is sok the accusitive?


[deactivated user]

    Yes, it is.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DrakeHyman

    Delete is (kinda) the opposite of make.

    Hope that helps if you need weird things like that to help you remember.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/yipivan

    How is "делает" pronounced? Is "ae" a diphthong? It sounds like "delete" to me.


    [deactivated user]

      /'dʲeləjɪt/ or /'dʲeləɪt/ (loss of /j/ before /ɪ/ is an ongoing process, not all speakers drop /j/ before /ɪ/).

      In speech, /əɪ/ might or might not sound like a diphtong. However, we don't usually call it a diphtong because it's a result of the phonetic reduction and not a diphtong phoneme. Also, what exactly is pronounced depends greatly on the speaker and on the speed of speech.

      In fact, "are /Vɪ/ and /Vj/ pronounced in the same way?" (worded 'is войны /'vojnə/ and воины /'voɪnə/ pronounced in the same way?') is a common flame war on a forum I frequent. :D There's clearly no agreement on this, some people insist that /ɪ/ is not creating a diphtong, others insist it does.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Alexander62682

      Or, to put it plainer, pronouce делает like "de la yet" and you would be quite close.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/POCKOCMOC

      Why not "Mom is making some juice."??? Shouldn't it be a correct answer?


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dessie464019

      Yes, "Mom is making some juice" is correct and in my opinion it should have been given as the default answer.

      Th Present Simple sentence "Mom makes juice" suggests that Mom's job is to make juice (everyday)


      [deactivated user]

        This course systematically translates Russian accusative without 'some', and uses 'some' for translating Russian direct objects in genitive (мама сделала сок = mum made [the] juice, мама сделала сока = mum made some juice). I think the course authors made a conscious decision to make those forms look different, and force people to remember the difference.


        [deactivated user]

          Сок (sok) and компо́т (kompot) are different things. Сок is extracted from fresh fruit. Компо́т is mady by boiling fruit, usually dry fruit, with adding sugar.

          Also, сок is usually made from one kind of fruit, while компо́т is usually made with several kinds.


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/craaash80

          "Mom makes the juice" marked wrong...


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sheymalu

          I think that should be excepted.


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mudd2.0

          I thought делать means to do....not to make


          [deactivated user]

            It means both.


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CiroIvan227

            Mom does juice isn't accepted :(


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/whitneylynn777

            Because Mom does juice doesn't make much sense in English.


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jedrzej286441

            Not accepted in English either ;)


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Elia430250

            Why not "mom is making a juice "?


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gadizja1

            мама из пробабли макинг компот


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ILF17

            Why not "a juice"? As there is no article in Russian, I do not really see how one can make the difference


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/imi_imp

            give me the квас mother


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GezaMark1

            Prepares is not good?


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Phobos_Raven

            Yes, you can use prepare or cook. - all of this words translated as "готовить", but prepare can be used in other cases "Mother prepare documents" (Мама готовит документы), cook - translates also as "готовить" (in English you use it for food, but in Russian it is the same word).


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/peterviuz

            I'm dutifully putting just "juice" for Duo, but I would always say "fruit juice", or "orange juice" or whatever.


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/garrett346770

            "mom prepares juice" denied duolingo? Come on man


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marty97211

            It didn't accept "Mom's making juice," which is more natural English. Reported Sep. 27, '20


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JCulhane

            The computer doesn't seem to recognize the contraction "Mom's" as a valid replacement for "Mom is" in the phrase "Mom is making juice."


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SeragHasouna

            Can we here use the partitive case and say ((мама делает сока)) ?


            https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SeragHasouna

            The general question can be formulated like this:

            When can we use the nominative case, the accusative case or the partitive case for a noun which comes after a verb?


            [deactivated user]

              No, you can't use the genitive case with the partitive meaning here. It's only possible for perfective verbs (like сделает), but not with imperfective verbs (like делает).

              Basically:

              • Nominative case is only used for subject. It can sometimes follow the verb, but only if the sentence begins with something other then subject: e.g. with a direct object (Сок делает мама 'It's mother who is making juice'), with an indirect object (Мне нравится Сергей 'I like Sergey', literally To-me is-likeable Sergei), with an adverb (Завтра придёт Инна 'Tomorrow, Ivan will come'), with a prepositional phrase (У меня есть мечта 'I have a dream'), or, basically, anything that is not a subject.
              • Accusative is the normal case for direct objects in positive sentences (e.g. Я купи́л руба́шку 'I've bought a shirt'). In negative sentences, it's required for living beings (e.g. Я не встре́тил сестру́ 'I haven't met [my] sister').
              • Genitive is used with partitive meaning in positive sentences (Duolingo generally translated this with 'some': Я купи́ла руба́шек 'I've bought some shirts'). In negative sentences, it's required for abstract'ish things (e.g. Я не потеря́ла наде́жды 'I haven't lost hope').

              The most complex case is choosing between genitive and accusative in negative sentences. In the past, genitive was required. Now, it's slowly being replaced by accusative. The process is unfinished, and with some words, accusative sounds better, while with others, genitive sounds better


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SeragHasouna

              That's really nice, so I have to work (during this stage) on grasping the sense of imperfective and perfective verbs in order to get the right case of the noun (for these three cases at least).

              I REALLY thank you for you fruitful response, спасибо большое.


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AviadHaber

              I translated it as "mom is preparing juice " Why isn't it right?


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Alireza331533

              Whats the diffrences between cok and coka?


              https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Amanda809684

              Why "mom is preparing juice" is wrong?

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