Weekly Incubator Update: Tracking Progress from December 13th to December 20th
The efficiency of the teams
All of this week's team updates (a total of six) have come in the last few hours - shows how good the incubator teams are to keep up with deadlines :)
For this week, I am going to open up the Star Update Award based on your upvotes - for the next 4-5 hours. Please vote on the specific comment for the courses posted below.
I will post a year end edition next week celebrating the great work that was done during the entire year.
Thought for the week
Happy Holidays to all!
PHASE 1 Progress: Total 29 courses
Spanish for Russian - 95% | 94% | 96% | 97% (+1)
Spanish for Chinese - 87% | 92% | 95% | 97% (+2)
Vietnamese for English - 77% | 87% | 90% | 92% (+2)
English for Thai - 90% | 89% | 90% | 91% (+1)
French for Arabic - 71% | 76% | 83% | 88% (+5)
Welsh for English - 70% | 75% | 80% | 85% (+5) ^
Hungarian for English - 80% | 80% | 80% | 80% (+0) ^
German for Italian - 78% | 77% | 79% | 79% (+0)
French for Russian - 50% | 68% | 76% | 79% (+3)
Hebrew for English - 75% | 71% | 71% | 71% (+0)
Romanian for English - 65% | 64% | 67% | 71% (+4)
Spanish for Italian - 67% | 66% | 68% | 68% (+0)
Swedish for Russian - 59% | 58% | 59% | 60% (+1)
Swedish for Arabic - 51% | 54% | 56% | 56% (+0)
German for Arabic - 42% | 41% | 43% | 43% (+0)
French for Turkish - 39% | 38% | 39% | 40% (+1)
Russian for Turkish - 38% | 37% | 38% | 39% (+1)
Italian for Portuguese - 33% | 34% | 36% | 39% (+3)
Greek for English - 31% | 26% | 29% | 35% (+6)
Esperanto for Spanish - 17% | 22% | 21% | 28% (+7)
Czech for English - 25% | 26% | 26% | 27% (+1) ^
Guarani for Spanish - 13% | 14% | 18% | 24% (+6)
Portuguese for French - 19% | 19% | 19% | 23% (+4)
Swahili for English - 5% | 15% | 15% | 23% (+8) ^*
Hindi for English - 22% | 22% | 22% | 22% (+0) ^
Klingon for English - 20% | 20% | 20% | 21% (+1)
French for Chinese - 9% | 9% | 9% | 9% (+0)
Yiddish for English - 8% | 8% | 8% | 8% (+0)
Indonesian for English - (New) 0% | 0% | 0% (+0)
Mean - 0.63% | 1.42% | 1.65% | 2.14% (+0.49)
Median - 1% | 0% | 1% | 1% (+0)
* This week's Leader Extraordinaire!
^ The Hungarian, Hindi, Czech, Welsh, & Swahili teams' progress is as per their own calculation
Here's what the contributing teams have said during the last week:
(For Phase-1 and Phase-2 courses by default, and for Phase-3 courses per request).
¡Noticias de la semana!
La semana anterior terminó con una caida pequeña en el porcentaje, pero esto no fue un verdadero problema. Lo que ocurre es que estamos siguiendo el formato del curso para hablantes de inglés, y éste se modificó un poco, por lo que hicimos lo mismo y algunas oraciones que habíamos hecho se perdieron. Sin embargo y por suerte, fueron pocas oraciones, por lo que en menos de una hora se recuperó todo, y luego se avanzó como en una semana normal (una muy buena semana normal).
El 15 de diciembre se celebró el aniversario del nacimiento de L. L. Zamenhof, el creador del esperanto. Para celebrarlo, muchos esperantistas subieron videos (entre otras cosas) a las redes con el hashtag #EsperantoLives . En éste subieron explicaciones de qué es el esperanto (como tal, y también qué es para ellos), cada uno en su idioma nativo. Aquí el link.
¡Hasta la próxima semana!
540 words, 27%.
Our course will have voice recording for the audio. I have forwarded some voice companies to Duolingo and it is likely that we will have a Vietnamese male voice with northern accent to record. However, it is not confirmed yet. As soon as we reach 100%, which is estimated by January 15th, Duolingo will start working on it and it may take one additional month for our course to be ready and release in Beta. No need to trust the estimation date in Incubator :)
The course content is being completed. Besides the basic grammar and vocabulary, I added advanced-level skills that focus on verbal communication and advanced writing. One could expect to have a smooth conversation in Vietnamese with the provided vocabulary from this course.
Have a great holiday and stay tuned!
Some obstacles ahead
We've just about reached our weekly 5% target.
We've input around 85% of the course content now, although there are plenty of errors to eliminate once we reach our target of 2,000 words.
Since this is the last update before Christmas, here's wishing:-
Nadolig Llawen (Merry Christmas)
Tangazo la Nne
Tamu la mua kifundo!
Hamjambo wote? As the holidays near, I think it is natural that the pace of our progress slows a little bit. We have not made as much progress this week as we have in the past few, but the above proverb speaks to that; literally, it translates to “Sweetness of the sugarcane at the joint.” If you have had sugarcane before, you might know that the hardest part to skin is the joint. But the juice of the sugarcane is sweetest at the joint, according to this proverb, meaning that good things don't come easily! So, the Swahili-English team is committed to pulling through, even if we have some lulls in the speed of our work!
With nearly 600 words completed out of an estimated 2500 and several of the Tips and Notes sections completed, we are approximately 23% completed with the course.
It is likely that there will be little progress in the next week or so with the holidays coming up. Our offices are closed and Emilian and I will be celebrating Christmas with our families. We probably won't have a Course Update until after the New Year, so be on the lookout and until then, happy holidays to all! Krismasi njema na kila la heri la mwaka mpya wa kwenu!
Also, if you aren't tired of this song, there is a great cover by East African artist Dela singing Adele's Hello. You can check it out here to listen to what the song sounds like in Swahili. Maybe, after the course is finished and open, some of you will be able to understand it!
Week 28: 22% complete, beta launch delayed
Expecting a good progress in the coming week!
A good jump in the overall progress - 2.14% for the week, with the median progress at 'one'. The star update award being decided by your upvotes this week. It has been another fun year at the incubator. There will be a yearly summary edition next week.
The next update is expected on Sunday, 27th of December at 4:00 pm UTC.
Previous Update 6-Dec to 13-Dec
Upvote here for the star update award for the Vietnamese team's update
I up-voted for Vietnamese! It's miraculous that they are in the 90's so soon after their "nuclear detonation" update. Thanks to the team for your efforts and perseverance! :)))
A resounding vote for the Vietnamese update! Congratulations ckhadung and team for claiming this week's Star Update Award!
Thanks for the great update Jiten!!
I’m really looking forward to the Hindi course, so I’m going to share why I want to learn Hindi. Maybe it will provide some inspiration. ☺
My best friend (I’ll call Arjun) moved to the United States from India with his parents and sisters about ten years ago. I met Arjun in college and we have been BFFs for 5 years or so. Arjun’s dad is chronically ill, so his mom is unable to work and always stays home to take care of him. Arjun and his sisters now work in healthcare to provide for their family.
Every time I’m close to his family’s house, I make an effort to stop by and say hello. Even though caring for Arjun’s dad is exhausting, whenever Arjun’s mom knows I’m coming, she makes the best chapatis and curried dishes that I have ever had in my life. And she doesn’t stop making food until I’m insistent that I’ve had enough to eat. His mom is the sweetest being on the planet for so many other reasons…
I feel bad for Arjun’s parents because they live in a small town in Illinois that has an otherwise nonexistent Indian population. They understand some basic English, but not enough to have a conversation. Usually Arjun translates between his parents and me.
It has become my mission to learn Hindi for Arjun’s parents. I wish more than anything to, not only converse with them about ordinary things, but to tell them how much I appreciate their unconditional love and hospitality. I want to tell them how they are amazing, admirable, parents. I want to be able to call them, just to say that I am thinking about them, hoping that they are doing well.
A Hindi course on Duolingo would be a blessing for me and Arjun’s family, and for so many hundreds of thousands of people!
Jitengore, I know that you will someday announce that the Hindi course is complete. But I also know that creating this course is no small task. No matter how fast or slow it’s going, know that we are cheering for you every step of the way! This course, and all courses, will truly make a difference in this world.
I wish I could contribute, but all I have to offer is my story.
Thank you for all the hard work you do.
holy lingots. thank you, and thanks to all of you mysterious lingot donors! I'm glad you appreciate my story!
As Jiten ji reported in Hindi Course Status: Expecting a good progress in the coming week! I hope it turns out positive.
I, as a learner cum (unofficial) contributor, have put up some material for the benefit of Eng.-Hindi learners in waiting at the page titled: Duolingo: Unofficial Introduction to the Hindi Writing System -Devanagari here :) Just want your comment on it :)
You're welcome! Thanks for the appreciation for my Sunday morning time that I consider very enjoyable :)
Your Sunday morning but very early Monday morning in Australia — the updates usually appear between midnight and 4 am here. It's only the most dedicated Australian duolingoists who watch for them live :)
Norwegian also had a major update about their upcoming 2.0 tree. You must have missed it because it's in phase 3
Thanks for letting the folks know. I have this disclaimer - Phase-3 course updates only per request.
Was Yiddish just abandoned? No word from any of the team members and last heard from about 7 months ago! And Hungarian is starting to frustrate me as well. But for Welsh and Vietnamese amazing work! And it's nice to see progress from Greek, Romanian, and Klingon as well as an exceptional boost from Team Swahili! I can't wait for what Duolingo brings for 2016!
The Hungarian team is back on track and posted an update about a month ago saying they have considerable progress, however they did not give out a percentage (which kind of annoyed me). However I am mad about the Yiddish course, I'm disappointed with the contributors since they just abandoned the course and the staff because they have not done anything about it and have let the course sit there and rot.
and the staff because they have not done anything about it and have let the course sit there and rot
How do you know? I'd suggest that's not the case.
Actually it appears that one of the contributors to the course is still active...
Because that course hasn't seen any activity for half a damn year, the staff does not seem to have gotten anybody else on the team (and before you ask there is at least one active user on duo who knows Yiddish, his name is springenbet and he sent in an app. but got no reply), and the staff has not told us anything about it, there's no reason why activity in the incubator should be top secret. How do you know that that's not the case?
The staff are not going to detail their communication with individual teams, that would be unfair to those teams and unprofessional conduct on duolingo's part. But they have told us that they regularly check in with teams, so I would be pretty confident that they check in with the Yiddish team from time to time and discuss how to get the course moving again while still making the team feel supported. I would also guess that the option of adding new contributors from the application pool has been discussed and up to this point they have decided that that is not going to help.
Another 5% from the Welsh team - they really are working at an impossibly fast pace, congratulations to them. Hopefully we'll only have to wait another two or three months for the course. It's nice to see Swahili and - yes - Klingon making some more progress, I'm looking forward to those two courses as well. It's a shame there's been no progress from Team Yiddish for a while, I hope they haven't encountered too many problems.
Sorry for botching up the poll by missing the upvote placeholder for Swahili. mazszieds's post did serve as an upvote for you, but you will agree that Vietnamese was indeed the winner :)
Hebrew is an Afro-Asiatic language, meaning that its grammar and a lot of its words are similar to Arabic which is also an Afro-Asiatic language. Yiddish is actually a Germanic language (part of the Indo-European language family), meaning that its grammar and a lot its words are more similar to that of German. However both Hebrew and Yiddish are sacred languages to Jewish people while German and Arabic are not, and Yiddish and Hebrew use the same alphabet, the Hebrew alphabet, and there are quite a few loan words (and by quite a few I mean a lot) from Hebrew in Yiddish. However linguistically they share pretty much nothing in common.
Yiddish has never been a sacred language to Jews, except (arguably) for Chabadniks. In fact, its entire success as a lingua franca between Jews from different countries depended precisely on its secular character (since using Holy speech in the street would be seen improper by orthodox Jews): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leshon_Hakodesh
Since the advent and success of modern Hebrew, the idea of Hebrew being a sacred language has diminished rapidly as well, and is observed only by the ultra-orthodox. On the other hand, Biblical Hebrew and Modern Hebrew are quite different languages...
Could you translate? I know only a few Klingon phrases/words (including, nuqneH, Qo'nos, nuqDaq yuch Dapol)
Literally, "he/she/it agrees!" (or even more literally, "he/she/it does not disagree" -- Qoch = disagree, -be' = "not").
But is probably Clipped Klingon here for "I agree!" or "Agreed!" - Clipped Klingon can leave off the verbal prefixes indicating the subject if not "he/she/it".
It would probably actually be tlhInganHol, the word for the Klingon language. thlingan by itself mean an actual Klingon
It would actually be tlhIngan Hol, the noun phrase for the Klingon language - we don't call it the "Klingonlanguage" in English, either :)
Sorry, I couldn't remember if Hol was a suffix or not. Klingon has A LOT of suffixes!
But at least you can only tack a limited number onto a word, and in practice, you won't see more than maybe four.
Not like "Avrupa-lı-laş-tır-a-ma-dık-ları-n-dan mı-sınız?" in Turkish. (Though that's admittedly also contrived.)
And I suppose in Klingon, if you really wanted to, you could have a dozen or so suffixes - start with a verb, which can have up to nine suffixes plus rovers, make sure the last one is -wI' which turns it into a noun, then add up to five noun suffixes.
Would make for a rather odd noun, though.
The language is a tricky one. Once you get the hang of the suffixes, and the grammar structure, the language can be easily used by yourself and with your friends. pab'oH ;p (It's grammar.)
At my last sentence, granted, I should've added in the Hol, but I was lazy, haha. Made it sound rather imperative.
Man, reading all these comments in/about Klingon are just making me all the more excited for it. Go team Klingon!
Upvote here for the star update award for the EO from ES team's update
I am glad to see that the English for Thai speakers course is making progress after months of delay.
Where does the +1 to Klingon come from? As happy as I am to see it, I can't see it on the course page or anywhere other than here for that matter. They're apparently not expressing their progress through own calculations either so... eh?
If you have Google Chrome you can install an user script and be able to see exactly how much % a course have. For weeks they have been at 20.9% but now they are at 21.0%
So Hungarian is not at 100% as the incubator says, but stuck at 80, and has made no progress?
The Hungarian team had decided to post manual progress updates and they haven't yet updated the 80% number.
Let's look at your upvotes after 4-5 hours from now to decide the winner of this week's Star Update Award
Thanks for the update .. I am from Pakistan and I have lots of Indian friends... so I understand spoken Hindi and I am very eager to learn the written Hindi as well . I just wanna ask is there any problem or Hurdle in Hindi course development as I can see 22% since when I joined Duolingo.
I don't mean to be mean or anything , Just was wondering that It would be really difficult to make a course with Hindi script and I appreciate the effort that you guys put into this.
Perhaps EO for ES has been duplicated accidentally in the place of Swahili?
That was indeed a poorly managed poll on my part :(
I did add the numbers from both the comments though.
There seems to be an extra question mark near the top of Team Swahili's update. Not that it's a bit deal, but thought I'd point it out and let ya know I still enjoy and appreciate these updates. ^_^