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Please don't use italics in information texts

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Hej,

I notice that in some of the skill information texts italic is used to mark phrases or words. While italic in general is a good idea for this I have to admit that I wouldn't use it in the combination of a language course for beginners and Cyrillic. It needs some concentration to use another alphabet, even if it is not that hard in general. But Cyrillic plus italic has some peculiarities that put an extra strain on it, e.g.

Latin: T t ttt M m mmm Cyrillic Т т ттт М м ммм

Thank you.

2 years ago

17 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Norrius
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Your frustration is understandable, but there are literally three letters that look differently in italic:
г г, д д, т т.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mosfet07

And only in lower case.
There is a fourth: и и

АБВГДЕЁЖЗИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯ
АБВГДЕЁЖЗИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯ

абвгдеёжзийклмнопрстуфхцчшщъыьэюя
абвгдеёжзийклмнопрстуфхцчшщъыьэюя

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Norrius
Norrius
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Hmm, well spotted. Then we can also add й й (well...), п п and л л (depending on the font), but I somehow feel that these changes are more natural and shouldn't be unexpected. N does something similar when it turns to n.

Seriously though, complaining about 4 additional shapes is silly when English uses separate capital and small glyphs for like half the alphabet.

q is Q and p is P? How come? b is B and d is D? Why? G becomes g? You kidding me? And so on.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Theron126
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Russian does р and Р too, though it has a different meaning...

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GuthSmash

This seems to be system specific, for me it looks like this: http://imgur.com/DZ0lLYX. Changing the default fonts on your OS or browser might help.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Shady_arc
Shady_arc
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It is font-specific. Usually, a Gothic font does not have italicised shapes: it has oblique ones.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HappyEvilSlosh
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Sorry, what's the problem here?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/landsend
landsend
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The "problem" is that you need to learn two new alphabets for the course instead of just the regular Cyrillic. Some cursive (italic) forms of the letters look totally different than the non-italic form, e.g. see the small cursive ттт which looks like this in cursive ттт. It is just an unnecessary extra effort for the learner - it is something that is nice to know and should be mentioned somewhere (and later in the course) but is not helping in the learning effort.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/garpike
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It is extra effort, but not much effort at all, and not unnecessary, unless you are content not being able to read anything written in italics. It's like the different forms of a and ɑ in English: someone learning the alphabet could be forgiven for thinking that they're different letters, but they're not, and simply need to be learned. There are only 4 of them for goodness sake!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Madame-patate

"The "problem" is that you need to learn two new alphabets for the course instead of just the regular Cyrillic" Wait, what ? This IS regular cyrillic xD If you are already beginning to feel at ease with the computer letters it's good that you learn their handwritten counterparts too, it's still the same alphabet and it may come in handy ^^

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HappyEvilSlosh
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see the small cursive ттт which looks like this in cursive ттт.

The cursive т looks just like т pushed over to me, but I see the problem in the image you posted, cheers!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jessica4201
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You don't need to learn two alphabets. In learning the Latin alphabet we learn 52 letters::26 each for upper case and lower case, with the corresponding symbols being easy to remember for the most part(Cc, Ww, Kk, Oo, etc) and requiring more time in a few cases(Gg, Rr, Bb, etc). It's the same thing with Cyrillic, except there are 66 letters.

I should also point out I'm mostly referring to English and Russian here. There could be more or less characters to learn depending on the language.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/flootzavut
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And in Cyrillic there is, in general, a stronger correspondence between upper and lower case than in Latin letters, so far a person has learned the Latin alphabet, I'm inclined to think they can manage a few twisty ones in Cyrillic!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/slogger
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You'll have to learn them eventually if you continue with Russian, and there are so few letters that are different. You probably wasted more time on this thread that it will take you to learn less than a half dozen letter variants.

Take some time to write out words that contain the letters that you find difficult, practice a few times, and then you'll know them.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Geniellamas

The italics look like Russian script btw. It's important to know how to read both and it isn't that difficult.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Shady_arc
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Please be more specific. I removed italics from Russian examples where I saw them. If they remained in some, feel free to say where that happens.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Geniellamas

Please keep them! I feel like it's important for people learning to know both forms.

2 years ago