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New Feature: "Your translation votes"

oskalingo
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I've just discovered this new feature. I'm not sure if it's just being given to a test group or is site-wide.

translation votes

Votes are grouped by articles you have worked on. At the bottom of the listing there is a small message,

Note: only votes that contribute to your progress within [your tier] are shown.

In other words, it only shows upvotes from people on the same tier as you or higher, and downvotes from people on a higher tier.

The pop-up listing is accessed by either clicking on the 'X upvotes from peers' or the 'Y downvotes' statements from the 'Your stats' box in any immersion article from the 'Original' view.

I think it's a well implemented, useful feature and that the developers are to be congratulated. What do others think?

4 years ago

19 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Luscinda
Luscinda
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Oh, now that is instructive. My downvote is for providing the accurate English-language name of an organisation as shown on their own website rather than that capriciously preferred by the twit who changed it. At least I shan't have to feel bad about my command of the language over it.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/oskalingo
oskalingo
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For cases like that, where an entity has an official English name, I put in the edit comment box either the organisation's About page URL or the English wikipedia URL for that entity. Both can serve as a reference to the correct English name.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luscinda
Luscinda
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Really gives the lie to any notion that any of this is about quality control, though, doesn't it.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rogduo
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Ha ha. I think you´re fine. Mine appears to be because I somehow failed to complete the phrase ¨pyramid scheme¨ and accidentally stopped at pyramid. Personally, I would have just not up'voted, and edited to add the word, but some people I think actually enjoy down-voting others as much as working towards learning and good translations. Disheartening, so I suppose I´ll have to grow thicker skin if I am to continue happily here. Cheers!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ColonelSteiger

Ok, I don't like it. One downvote equals 5 upvotes???? Why should we work to do translations if somebody has the power to wipe out 5 of my hardearned upvotes with one click of the computer. I don't even know why they didn't like the way I translated it. And if they are going to leave a downvote, make them disclose who they are, why they changed the translation and post the new "acceptable" translation with the downvote. Translators can have differences of opinion. You allow for alternates in the skill lessons. And for heavens sake, don't let one vote kill 5. Reverse the ratio at least. This is supposed to be friendly, not cutthroat.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/revdolphin
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Sweet. Thanks for letting us know about this.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anonyduck

This seems like a good way to get feedback on one's translations.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SaxyLady
SaxyLadyPlus
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I just noticed that I have this feature. Sweet!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MultiLinguAlex
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I also have it, but I would not have recognized it without your post, so thanks a bunch mate ;-)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/n.gratton
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That's great; very helpful and thanks for pointing it out. (And thanks to the DL team for putting it there).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JeroenAV
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Putting it where? I can not find the feature anywhere?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JeroenAV
JeroenAV
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But maybe that's because I did not read the opening post... Found it :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rogduo
rogduo
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It´s new? I thought I´d just discovered it and had been blind and-or stupid up until now. Sweet.

And it´s already useful. I has just got my first, single level-1 point, and then got my second downvote ever immediately thereafter, meaning I´m back to Zero. Oh well, in a day or two, that harsh person would have cost me four, so looking on the bright side...

Edit: hmmm, I¨ve received a few upvotes and still have 0 points, so apparently you can proactively lose points, essentially going in the hole. Didn´t dodge that bullet after all.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luscinda
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Oh absolutely, you can be in negative figures.

I really regret that this didn't come earlier so I could see who gave me multiple downvotes in a matter of minutes on the previous tier because whilst as an absolute beginner I may easily have got something wrong I can't believe I wrote anything so loopy as to merit that. And I'd love to know who I should be giving a wide berth.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dessamator
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It is a good feature, the only thing missing is a reason for the down-vote. But I suppose it is not as important because people can also start a discussion to hopefully get some feedback from others.

If this is used correctly it could eliminate/reduce the impact of down-votes. For example, if someone gets a down-vote, the person can start a discussion and have people state what is wrong with the sentence, and if people don't find anything wrong then it is easy enough to convince 3 or more users to up-vote it. In effect it would limit a "bad" down-vote's effect by reducing it to 2 negative points.

I also think that with this the team has effectively resolved the major issues with immersion, we now have:

  • An immersion discussion - to facilitate conflict resolution and discussion in articles;
  • A tier system - to assess the relative perceived "proficiency" of the user;
  • Blocked edit - to prevent edit-wars; and
  • Negative downvote - to prevent bad translators from persisting with bad edits.

The only thing I can think of that is lacking is perhaps some form of consistency control.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GigiKaren
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I just recieved my first, and second downvotes today. I didn't know this was a new feature, and I'm glad it is there now as it would have bothered me a great deal if I couldn't find which were downvoted. Both were on small spelling corrections I made on translations. Wierd! When mine are corrected (blush), I upvote the correction.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jaye16
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I repeat knowing who gave the votes is not an issue, knowing what was wrong is the key to helping us improve. We also don't need to know who up voted so it doesn't turn into a HS clique scenario. Thumbs up to D L for finally listening to so many translators' pleas.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Potatosage
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That's interesting. I suspect that some of those who have commented on the voting system will not be pleased that voting remains anonymous and so the voters cannot be contacted for praise or punishment according to their deserts.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luscinda
Luscinda
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I suspect it wouldn't be hard to work out once you've worked out where they're appearing.

4 years ago

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