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I am not sure if this is correct Polish. You will be understood, it looks like a correct grammatically sentence, but sounds so artificial, and strange.
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What triggers this construction? Another exercise in this section was "mój tata tu jest" - how is this different?
there are two things here :
1 tu/tutaj are interchangeable,
2) we use "nie ma"(+genitive) , whenever we talk about somebody or something not being somewhere, or something not existing, or instead of "there are no... "
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So you would never use ma for a positive statement about location or existence? Always "On jest tu(taj)", or "Nie ma go tu(taj)"?
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Polish is really difficult, normally, I just don't notice that. :D
The pronoun "He" is in the sentence, but it is inflected, so instead of "on", we get "go". I wish I could explain it in a better way but nothing comes to my mind now. If I think about anything else you could find useful, I'll let you know.
Direct objects in the negative are generally declined into the genitive. Genitive of "on" is "go". Think of it as "there is none of him here" or "there is no sign of him here". Does that make sense?
I just looked it up. Have you paid for it? Do you recommend it as a supplement to duo? What's your experience with Glossika?
I did (during a sale). I'm over 2/3 into the course and gotta say some structures are taking root in my head. I can't really judge tho, because I mixed in a bit of other resources (Duolingo eg) and I haven't tried conversing yet. It's also a nightmare for people with "choice disorder" like me (hahaha) because it's very flexible: you can choose between hard work (my choice) or slower progress, or mix and match their two methods however you want. The point is to get their sentences stuck in your head and let it figure the rest out, but I also opted to explore the grammar inside. Sometimes it actually requires other sources of vocabulary like Duolingo, but quite some recurring structures / phrases (just eg, w przyszłym tygodniu) come up so often that it'd be impossible for them not to roll of your tongue. I'm planning to write a full review on my blog, so I dunno why I'm writing so much here X) Edit: in case you're wondering what I meant in my original comment, that's one of the first sentences, which got absolutely stuck in my head
He is not here. This structore can be translated as "... am/is/are not here" for nouns denoting people, and "There is/are no..." for nouns denoting things
I believe that they are interchangeable; however, I prefer to use "tutaj" for disambiguation purposes.....
Out of interest, can this construction have different tenses? "Nie miało go tutaj"/"Nie będzie mieć go tutaj"?
Interesting question. No, this weird construction with "mieć" only exists in Present Tense, Past and Future are more logical and use "być".
Nie było go tutaj / Nie będzie go tutaj.
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If I were to replace "he" with a noun, would this be correct? Nie ma mój tata tutaj.
I think it has to be put into the genitive (general rule for the object of negative verbs). So "mojego taty" I believe.
What a convoluted construction a verb with no subject but with an object(which should be the subject)and that in the genitive rather than the accusative
Direct objects in the negative are generally declined into the genitive. Genitive of "on" is "go". Think of it as "there is none of him here" or "there is no sign of him here". Does that make sense?
