"We visit our sister in July."

Translation:W lipcu odwiedzamy naszą siostrę.

January 8, 2016

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/skylabpepper

Is 'naszą' optional in Polish?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mihxal

It's a matter of precision. If someone knows what sister you visit then you can omit it but English sentence uses "our", hence it's translated as "naszą".


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aGABT31

I can say "I am visiting sisters tomorrow" (in which case I am probably speaking quite informally, or even "I am sister-visiting", which is even more informal to the point of being jocular) but the sentence specifies "our", so does need "naszą" for the translation to be correct.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mihxal

The basic difference is that in English you need either an article or some other determiner like for example possessive pronoun. While in Polish it is not necessary.

For example, normally, you wouldn't say in Polish "Dziewczynka uderzyła swoją głową o stół" but rather "Dziewczynka uderzyła głową o stół". While in English you would say "The/a girl hit her head against the/a table". I put aside the fact that "her" could mean that she hit a head of some other woman and not her own head.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aGABT31

Put that way, you are of course right! I would be quite chuffed if I could come up with a phrase like your illustration (and the mind boggles as to what could be going on), but yes. Love it. Dzięki!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BruceAdams14

This is true but the related translation question omits the "naszą" implying that it is a correct answer. So it is either unfair to reject it or unhelpful to omit it in that question.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jellei

I'm not sure what was rejected, but just "siostrę" and "naszą siostrę" are definitely correct.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DimaUKR

I think this sentence is a bit tricky. I can visit sisters, but not mine.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ZacharyByrski

I'm still a little confused. When is instrumental/accusative used for pronouns? Why isn't it nasze?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mihxal

Only 3rd person singular and plural possessive pronouns are special ones and they are not inflected. Look here: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/12407494


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Frecklebuster

We were told to mark all correct translations for "We visit our sister in July". I marked only ' W lipcu odwiedzamy naszą siostrę' as correct, but they say I should have also marked the option in which 'naszą' was omitted. In view of the comments below, can you please confirm whether or not I can omit 'naszą' in this sentence? Thanks.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jellei

Logically, the sister is thought to 'belong' to the subject of the sentence, unless otherwise stated. "naszą" may feel better here, but it surely is not needed.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Frecklebuster

Thanks very much for your explanation. I sent you a lingot separately in appreciation!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RobertMill875055

Can I not say "swoją siostrę"?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jellei

Yes, of course. Oversight, added now.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jane15blue

Why does July change to lipcu and not stay as lipiec?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jellei

Well, for the same reason that basically every noun changes - the grammatical cases.

"lipiec" is Nominative, the basic case, the one you'd find in a dictionary, used mostly for the subject of the sentence. But to say "in [name of a month]", you need the preposition "w" and the Locative form of the name of the month (or basically any other noun, when you want to say "in/inside [noun]". The Locative of "lipiec" is "lipcu".


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jane15blue

Thanks Jellei. I'm not very good with the cases.

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