https://www.duolingo.com/Gammacea

fluent percent in duolingo

is it just me who reacted to the percentage set for how fluent you are in the language you learn in the Duolingo tool?

I make several mistakes during my exercises in Italian and is at this point 15% fluent in Italian

My wife - who is a language teacher - and makes very few mistakes has 0% fluency for the same course

feels like the parameter for calculating fluency is set totally reversed - the more errors the higher fluency

correct me if I'm wrong

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/lanievjo
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The system is not the most accurate, so you are not wrong. The fluency meter is just there to give you a confidence boost. Keep going with your studies, and ignore that thing! =)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gammacea

I'll take your advice - but as technician an web designer I'm kind of disturbed by it :-) I'll struggle on with the course - and must say it's big fun :-)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/b05aplmun.ca
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Most of us think the fluency percentage is not terribly accurate. Don't worry about it too much.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LanguageButcher

I believe the fluency is based on the practice. The more practice you do, the higher the fluency. Since your wife is a teacher, she probably just goes through the lessons and doesn't do the practice.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gammacea

You might be on to something - I repeat a lot - she just makes sure staples are always orange

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Robin167157

I just aced 6 timed lessons and my fluency went down from 10 to 9%. In fact I've completed the whole course and have been practicing daily and my fluency keeps going down. I think it's absolutely bogus.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LanguageButcher

Did you peek? Do you use all the accent marks? Were the lessons related to grammar or just vocabulary? Not all the lessons have the same weight. Grammar related lessons, like prepositions, weigh more.

The problem is that you have finished the tree. It's really hard to increase the fluency rate now. Like, for a 4-day old baby, the fifth day is 1/5 of his life, but for a 90-year old person, a day is a tiny fraction that does not affect much. At this point the whole tree would decay a lot faster than your 6 quizzes a day.

In any case, knowledge is the key. If you know the materials well, move on. Ignore all the numbers on Duo. It does you absolutely no good to pay attention to numbers.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Robin167157

Hi, I don't peek and I don't use accent marks since they slow me down and I know them. (Thank you Spanish for being so consistent in pronunciation!) The tree does seem to decay faster.

I agree that knowledge is the key. I'd love to have some way to know what I really do need to practice, which are the more complex verb forms which have the longer sentences. I'm concentrating on doing the sentence repeats by not looking so that I can build up my language memory. I'd love any ideas of creating more variety in the lessons or having any way to being able to note things/words/verbs I would like to highlight to learn better.

Thanks for the help! Robin

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LanguageButcher

You definitely should use accent marks. They aren't just suggestions. They are part of the spelling. Since you spent this much time in learning it already, why not do everything right.

I'm not learning Spanish so I don't have any resources to give you but you should look beyond Duo to increase your skills. I would suggest grammar sites.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Robin167157

Thanks! I didn't realize the accent marks counted for so much statistically. Since I know where they should go and duolingo counted the answer as correct I ignored them. I probably will still ignore them since they slow me down so much but now I know what the cost is. And I make sure that I know where the accent goes. (Thanks to Spanish pronunciation!) Thanks for this insight. I am also doing NotesinSpanish and SpanishWizards both of which are good and just have a little different approach. All of it is fun!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/b05aplmun.ca
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I doubt that accents count all that much statistically, but a lot of language-learning is about forming habits, so, for your own sake, you should be in the habit of tossing the accents in. It may slow you down a little, but it will also give you practice with producing the accents at speed.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/b05aplmun.ca
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The fluency percentage is wonky, at best, and, as you may have seen elsewhere, the algorithm was just changed for a lot of people in a way that decreases their scores.

That said, a percentage of 9% sounds really low for someone who has finished the tree and is continuing to review. Do you mostly use the app, rather than a computer? From what I've seen anecdotally, the app seems not to credit work done towards the fluency percentage appropriately.

I finished my Spanish tree a while ago and just finished the reverse tree (minus the unavailable Christmas bonus).

While I was working on my reverse tree, I kept the original tree gold, but did no exercises for that tree on any day that it was gold already. My fluency stayed pretty steady at 57%, with the occasional dip down to 56%.

In the meantime, my reverse tree's fluency slowly increased, until it was also at 57%.

After the seismic shock of the other day, my original tree is at 52% and the reverse tree at 71%.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Robin167157

Thanks. Yes, it's really acting funny. I finished the tree a couple of weeks ago. All on the computer. I have some that change back from gold each day and do those. I used to pay attention to accents but no longer since it slows me down. I had 10% today then did about 6 timed lessons beating the clock every time with only one answer missed at most. Then it said, 'Congratulations, I now am at 10%' even though I was already at 10%. Then about 4 timed lessons more in which I beat the clock with mostly perfect scores it lowered me to 9%. What is the reverse tree? I'd love some variety. I'm still appreciating repeating lessons but I'd love some way to know what I really need to practice and concentrate on those. Or to get some more variety.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/b05aplmun.ca
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The reverse tree is doing the tree from your target language to your native language - for instance, since you are taking Spanish and (I assume) are a native speaker of English, you would change your settings to say that you are a Spanish speaker taking an English class.

It gives you more practice in producing Spanish sentences and the reverse tree also includes a fair bit of vocabulary that is not in the English -> Spanish tree.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Robin167157

I love it. Thanks! I'll definitely do it!

1 year ago
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