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https://www.duolingo.com/NadineBadrawy

Armenian language?

We literally now have every language in the world, can we have Armenian too?? and please, if we have Armenian, let it be Western Armenian as western armenian is the Armenian spoken in the whole world except for Armenia itself, just like here on Duolingo, we take mexican or latin american Spanish and not the Spanish spoken in Spain, bec latin american/Mexican Spanish is more spoken.

Thank you.

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/psionpete
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Which Duolingo has every language in the world? There are many many languages not covered by Duo and Armenian is only one of them.

Duo implements new languages because wonderful people volunteer to create the courses. If you know anyone fluent in English and Armenian then try to get them to apply.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Hojinkie
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If there's one thing we've done it's apply. Volunteering is not enough, the site has to accept us first, which it has yet to do.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/psionpete
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As others have said, the incubator, which is where languages are developed, has limited bandwidth so Duo has to select which languages are accepted and the order that they are put into the incubator. No one outside of Duo knows how they decide and there are many factors they have to consider. Hopefully Armenian will be started soon but you will just have to be patient.

2 years ago

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The applications for Armenian have been steady for the past two year, but there's still no word from the duo team. I understand patience, but the choosing of which languages are put in the incubator goes beyond my comprehension of reason. I'm not trying to point fingers but, Klingon for example was started with only two contributors and was asleep for 6 months. From a completely neutral standpoint, wouldn't it make more sense to go with a course that had at least 6 active contributors?

2 years ago

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the choosing of [...] languages [...] goes beyond my comprehension of reason. [...] Klingon for example [...]

One of the reason for adding Klingon was the publicity it'd create in the media.
Adding an extra "standard" language doesn't bring a lot of attention on Duo in the media (and thus to person who may not here about it otherwise) but Klingon.

wouldn't it make more sense to go with a course that had at least 6 active contributors?

With a lot of contribs, you may go faster but it's harder to keep consistency all along the course. So it's not necessarily better (from the point of view of the quality of the course) to have 6 contribs than having 2.

2 years ago

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I assumed as much with Klingon. As for the more contributors, I'm sorry, but I didn't exactly catch what you meant. Could you please elaborate?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SaroM3
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All they're missing is trigedasleng

1 year ago

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Hi NadineBadrawy,

You'll find for example {@style=color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}here a (more than) 1 year old and popular discussion about Armenian for English speakers where you can add your vote and even comment.

If you want to make a [course] suggestion, we encourage you to visit the forums and making a search for suggestions that have been made in the past, and adding your vote and comments to those existing posts [and thus not creating a new one{@style=color:blue;font-style:normal;}]. That will make the request more popular and make it stand out more, encouraging more people to add their votes. :)

From Help Center: "How can I suggest a new language course?"
Note: Texts in between square brackets are additions of mine.


as western armenian is the Armenian spoken in the whole world except for Armenia itself

But, according to the numbers I saw, Western Armenian has around 4-5 times more speakers than Eastern Armenian. Thus it could be logical for Duo to choose this one (like they choose "Latin American Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese, American English).

2 years ago

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I think western Armenian should be encouraged more since it doesn't have any land to be spoken on before it can become an endangered language in some parts of the world like in turkey for example

1 year ago

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"We literally now have every language in the world" - why belittle your further request with this kind of statement?

I would hope both east- as well as west-armenian will make it through here!

2 years ago

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Western Armenian is spoken in pocket South American, French, and American East Coast communities, Lebanon, and (formerly) Syria. Eastern Armenian is spoken is Russia, the West Coast of the United States, Armenia, Artsakh, Georgia, and Persia. From an outdated source I gathered that Eastern speakers amount to 4.3 million and Western speaker to 880,000. I understand that you would like a Western course, but honestly it does not seem practical because Eastern is more reformed, has less exceptions, and I think the biggest reason: it's spoken in Armenia. Most people that would like to visit Armenia I'm sure would much rather enjoy learning the native dialect. Ultimately, I would enjoy both courses existing but, to be completely honest, I don't see either courses entering the incubator anytime soon because of other languages having some kind of priority.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NadineBadrawy

Western Armenian is spoken in the whole world including the west coast of the United States. Eastern Armenian is spoken in Armenia/Artsakh, Georgia, and Persia, yes.. but only those? and the rest of the world? The rest of the world speaks Western Armenian. As I said before, even here on Duolingo, they have Latin American Spanish and not Spain Spanish. Why is that? Because Spain Spanish is only spoken in one country which is Spain, and Latin American Spanish is spoken in several countries all around the world. Same as Portuguese, they have Brazilian Portuguese here and not Portugal's. Why? Because the population of Brazil is 200.5 Million.. so will thy put Portugal's Portuguese just because Portugal's the original country of the language? Of course not. (PS, western Armenian even sounds better)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SaroM3
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Don't forget Canada... all I hear over here is western Armenian, it's only recently that I've been hearing a bit of eastern dialect

1 year ago

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Well as you can see from the information provided, there are obviously more Eastern Armenian speakers. It does not cover more land mass, but people, in my opinion, would not learn Armenian to speak it in Argentina, Boston, and Marseille. It would make sense that they learn Armenian to properly communicate in Armenia and Artsakh. And you cannot simply say a language sounds better. That may be true for you, but for others, it might not. In Western Armenian the letters կ, ծ, and տ have lost their sound. The distinction between է/ե and օ/ո is not regulated and it's impossible to which letter to use for what sound because Western Armenian is not reformed.

2 years ago

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So what you're getting at is let's forget about western Armenian because it's not spoken in Armenia and unwittingly or intentionally let it slowly die out... I don't know what's worse Kurds in the past helping in the annihilation of western Armenians and their culture or modern day eastern Armenian brothers and sisters discouraging ppl from preserving WA hence culture?

1 year ago

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I suggest you read my comment again, except this time try to avoid jumping to preconceived conclusions. I would love for there to be courses for the 30+ dialects of Armenian. The fact is, that there is a way of building a presence on this website. A more standardized language with more resources seems, at least to me, the way to building that presence. Once we have our foot in the door and have traversed building one course, is when I believe we can start petitioning for others.

You mentioned "Eastern Armenian brothers and sisters," but one important thing to realize is that it's only our language thats divided between East and West, not our people. One nation, one culture.

1 year ago