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Ukrainian vs Russian

I recently started the Ukrainian course and have seen a few comments in the discussion that it's a little limited compared to others being offered here. A few people have suggested I also consider learning Russian to augment my learning and I am very willing to do it.

How different are the two languages when it comes to the vocabulary and meaning of words/phrases?

January 12, 2016

8 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Garry_S

If you learn Ukrainian, then it will be easier for you to learn Russian. But if you start from the Russian, the Ukrainian will learn a little more difficult.

January 13, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/flootzavut

Actually for a Russian speaker, Ukrainian is not that hard - especially the tree here, which is relatively short. (Non-native Russian speaker, I finished the course here in five days.)

January 15, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Garry_S

Well, it's really like for someone. Too individually. There just really is not too detailed tree.

January 15, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/flootzavut

I'm sure for a native Ukrainian speaker, who's been exposed to Russian pretty much all their life, it's probably easier to learn Russian than for a Russian native who's rarely heard Ukrainian to learn Ukrainian. I suspect that's what you are thinking of, and I am sure that's probably true, but it's very different from someone from a non-Slavic background.

For non-native speakers (who have generally not been exposed to either language, unless they have family who speak one or the other), however, they're very similar in general and in terms of difficulty, and a good basis in one is very helpful to get to grips with the other, regardless where one starts.

January 16, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/springenbet

Yes, it may definitely augment your learning! The languages are rather close to each other, but beware of some "false friends of a translator", e.g. неделя is the Russian word for "week" whereas недiля is the Ukrainian for "Sunday"

January 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/yanhouse

If you are not fluent in one of the languages (Russian or Ukrainian) you will mix up Russian and Ukrainian words. It happens when you learn similar languages at the same time. There are many similar words in both languages; spelling and pronunciation can be a little beit different. You can mix up these kind of words. It happens to me when I started learning Italian and Spanish. I know better Italian and when I speak Spanish, very often I use Italian words insead Spanish ones.

Knowing Russian, I understand maby 30-40% of Ukrainian words. You have to decide what language is more important for you. I advise you to learn one of these languages for 1 year and then you can start learning the 2nd one.

January 12, 2016

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    Although the languages are pretty similar, I'm not sure it's worth to learn Russian if you need Ukrainian (or vice versa). If you plan to speak both languages eventually, then you'll definitely find a lot of similarities between those languages. But if you only need Ukrainian, then Russian course just seems unneccessary.

    Yes, the Ukrainian course is smaller and has more bugs than the Russian course. But it should be enough to give you a foundation to continue learning on your own, using other materials.

    I personally think this is a bad idea. I had an experience of trying to learn both Cantonese and Mandarin at the same time, and I still can't speak either. But your mileage may vary.

    January 12, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/flootzavut

    Really it depends why you're learning Ukrainian. If you just want to be able to speak a Slavic language, then the Russian tree is more thorough and much more informative. However, if you really want to learn Ukrainian, then Russian could be somewhat of an unnecessary detour.

    If you can articulate for yourself why you chose Ukrainian, that should help in figuring out whether you should stick to it or go for Russian first. If you have Ukrainian speaking friends/family, then you have an obvious reason to prioritise Ukrainian.

    January 15, 2016
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