Jumping the boundaries, English learners needing help
We need native English speakers eager to help English learners, please visit us:
To jump easily over there just bookmark the link.
It's a pity we don't see this forum by default. I went there and answered a couple of questions trying to give explanations in Spanish. Looks like a terrific practice!
Thanks for the link, I guess I'll visit the English forum once in a while. I'm not a native English speaker, but I guess I can explain the basics in many cases.
Thanks for helping us. I've done the same thing on the other side, I asked them coming to help Spanish learners.
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English Language Discussion: http://www.duolingo.com/topic/217
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Oh, is that what I posted in the thread about chatrooms? Thanks for finding it!
We need to connect the forums better! There are a lot of posts here on the English forum, but in other forums even important posts like this get no attention: http://www.duolingo.com/comment/1265753
For now we can only bookmark the links and try to remember to have a regular look around in the other forums. :/
Yes, there is like a Great Wall of China separating the different English forums, there's one for every single language, and it is almost like they are in different dimensions. My guess is that this problem will exacerbate with the next few incoming languages. There will be more than 6 forums for Russian, for Japanese, for Mandarin, and others.
Something really needs to be done, because most of the time people keep repeating the same questions that have been asked and answered previously in another "English" forum.
It's a shame there is no quick access to the forums, as the community is the main added value to my language learning. The robot-generated sentences are great, sure, but the fact that you can ask the community about specific grammar points, about your mistakes etc. is priceless.
I do agree with you guys that it is sometimes not easy to explain why we say what we say in our mother tongue, but there are tons of questions we can answer. I try to do that as much as I can in French, would it be at least to give back to the community for what I've received.
This doesn't really work because you don't need english native speakers as much as you need bilingual english speakers.
For example Sitesurf has made a tremendous contribution to French learners. However, if he/she had posted the "help" or explanations in French, understanding the issue would take a lot longer. But if Sitesurf was only fluent in French, then he/she wouldn't be able to even read the questions posted.
That's just my thoughts, I did consider helping myself till I realised this. Perhaps those who have reached a decent level of fluency and completed their trees will be in a better position to help mirrored learners. Who knows.
Well, a fellow learner with the same language set can understand the difficulties when learning this language and maybe point to resources/explainations he or she found helpful. But a native speaker can give you direct feedback about the usage/meaning/level of speach etc. So it also depends on the language level of the learner, I think. It's good to be fluent in the language that the explaination is in, at any rate. ;)
In a ideal world yes, but in reality to execute it perfectly you'd need to be fluent in both languages. That's my opinion.
I can't articulately explain to a learner of English who is French why we say certain things in English, because I'm not yet fluent in French.
My French teacher can explain why they say certain things in French because she is a native, but also fluent in English.
I think it depends on the question you are answering. Sometimes, it is as simple as answering yes or no, other times you have to think a bit and provide a more detailed answer, and in the worst case scenario you need to do some research on the subject before you provide the answer.
I have actually been thoroughly educated (and humbled) by a non-native speaker about a concept I thought I knew in my mother tongue, and I learned much from that discussion.
In fact, to quote my ex-university lecturer, "it seems as if I'm giving you extra work by telling you to help other students, but you will soon realise that you learn more from teaching others" (Viljoen, 2006), rather than learning alone.
Depending on the language level an answer in the question you are learning can be helpful too!
I hope that when more language directions get released, the forums are restructured so that we can see all of them and are not restricted to our own language's forum. I think it would also be a good opportunity to make switching language courses easily if you're learning using different languages.
I'm also not a native speaker, but learnt it primarily during all my secondary schooling. This is unfortunate, I know of all these forums and would help, but it is such a chore to get there so I never bother. Bookmarking is one good way though.
I might be a native speaker it doesn't mean I have the answers to their questions, I don't know why I say "tell" in some instances and "say" in others and when I'm using English I really don't care either. I'm certainly not qualified to teach English to anybody, nice idea none the less.
I enter sometimes, but either I forget to enter since I don't see it by default, or I don't know a 100% sure answer.