Third gift! Three new skills to spice up your holiday season
We created three new skills that we hope come in handy over the next few weeks and beyond. Find them in any language that we offer. Just hop over to the lingot store to "buy" these new special skills. They won't appear in the store until you reach the corresponding level in the tree. Once they do though you'll keep them forever and be able to practice (but not test out) as much as you like. Don't have enough lingots? You'll need to save up!
The special skills are:
Have fun! And let us know how you put your new language skills to use ;)
I wish you could something like a plush DL owl with, like 100 or 200 lingots or however many. I WANT A DL OWL PLUSH
Unfortunately, they are all one time investments. I have bought the skills and I don't know what to do with lingots again.
Big thanks to Duo for this, but streak freeze for more than one day would be a better lingot sink. If the streak freeze was limited by lingots only, I would gladly buy the wagers to save several hundreds lingots to save my streak for a week offline once or twice a year.
The Streak is a learning tool to encourage us to practice each day to maintain it, because practicing every day is an important part of learning a language. It loses it's purpose when it's just a number bought with lingots. I think it would be nice to have more ways to use lingots (or make them much harder to earn). But, I don't feel that changing how they interact with the streak is the answer. :)
If it's so, then I don't understand the one day streak freeze. If it's meant only as a motivation tool, then remove the streak freeze feature at all, because it means temptation to cheat when I can avoid it. Those who are lazy to practice already have opportunity to buy a one day freeze for ten lingots, and they would probably rarely take 2 days freeze for 30 (10+20) lingots, 3 days for 60 (10+20+30) etc. I should have mentioned the cost progression in the first place, without really helping the lazy ones. 10 + 20 + 30 + (up to the number of days) seems OK - 280 lingots a week is too much for the lazy but acceptable for a Duolingo addict who just wants to save their 100 or 200 days long streak before a week of travelling (or save plans to travel, for extreme addicts).
On the other hand, I know that I have to leave net for more than a weekend for few times a year, so why bother to try for a long streak. I practice daily if I can (streaks are good to motivate for that), but I envy a little for you with really long streaks, knowing that I will never have such a long streaks even if I practiced every day I can for years. In current state long (perhaps 20+ or 30+) streaks show either that the person practice everyday or that they buy streak freeze quite often, but the longest ones don't necessarily mean that the person studies every day, just that they can access internet every day, except for some weekends at most. I hate the dilemma between Duolingo competition and life outside this app, and the temptation to cancel the most interresting holidays just because access to internet might be impossible there, or spoil the experience from them. I know forgetting about the competitive aspect of the streak is the best solution (and I do this), but it's not very pleasant.
To conclude, with cost progression, longer streak freezes wouldn't allow the lazy be much more lazier (they would never get enough lingots for really long breaks), but they would allow Duolingo addicts to go for holidays from time to time.
Taking it away completely would be an extreme for one, unnecessary for two.
Missing one day, once in a great while, is not going to hurt the learning process. There comes a certain point though, where people can't be protected from themselves.
If people really want to misuse the 1 day streak freeze then they are going to have to put some effort in to get the lingots in the first place. They will still have to log on to buy the streak freeze, and if they do, then I don't see why they wouldn't just stay and complete a lesson. But, blatantly encouraging them to misuse it by adding longer streak freezes is something I don't think Duolingo is planning to do. (Maybe some day they will surprise me.)
Right now, If someone has worked really hard to keep their streak going and, for example, they lose internet, they have 24 hours to find a new connection.
I've watched people I follow log on during the holidays, earn 10 points to help continue their streak, and then log off to enjoy their holiday. It's not much, but it's something. At the very least, their brain had to draw upon their new language reserves to earn those points.
If they earned 10 points a day for the next year that is still 365 days times at around 20 questions a day. They will move at a snail's pace (and I don't think I could continue to motivate myself at that pace personally) but they would still move.
So far, the committed language learners aren't asking for multi-day streak freezes. I saw one announce at 100 days that they would be going on holiday. And when they got back, they would be working to match their old streak. That is the mind set of the committed language learner. The streak motivates but it doesn't dominate.
OK, I accept your point. A good motivation not to become dominated by gamification :-)
@Goran I also got your point about the joy of competition and the almost always inevitable interruptions of life. When it happens for me, I'll probably cry before getting on to start building my streak over again.
yup you are right, except not well thought out. I think that for travel and other reasons a person might want to take a few days off without losing their streak. I think I have the mind set of a committed learner I have a 428 day streak and I have kept my tree solid gold for months. BUT I like to travel to Mexico and have had rooms in Mexico without WiFi I even had a room in Casa Grande with out WiFi. I really like the suggestion where it is more difficult to earn lingots and the cost of a multi day streak freeze would only be available to someone who had worked really hard. But instead I'm earning all these useless lingots and have to scramble while one the road and until I can arrange internet in Mexico. I'll give you some of those lingots, I'd give more but it is to much work.
The purpose of duo is so you can learn a language. People who use the freeze too much defeat the purpose of the app.
"They will still have to log on to buy the streak freeze, and if they do, then I don't see why they wouldn't just stay and complete a lesson."
I think you do not know how buying the streak works! You do not have to log in to Duolingo on the very same day. You just pay 10 lingots which just turns on the feature. It stays prepaid and turned on until you cannot connect when it is used up. Then you have to log in again and pay for another streak freeze.
Hey team, great idea to be able to buy further lessons! Like it! Like it! Like it! Like it! .... (get the idea?)
One point - why do these extra words not count towards ones word score? There are several new words - but they don't appear in the vocab and thus don't count. Can you add them?
Thanks Duolingo, and yes, can these be added to the word count and the vocabulary please?
I noticed this too, and reported it... ...but I now think it may have been intentional, and with a good reason.
Words that go into our vocab list decay over time, which causes the lessons to decay. I would guess the intention here is to give us access to these lessons if we want to learn them, but not 'force' us to keep them golden.
This prevents the bonus skill from decaying and their associated vocabulary from showing up in Weakest Words Practice. If you want to practice them on your own, you can always go back and just redo the lesson.
But if you want to learn them, therefore add them to your vocabs, wouldnt you want to practise them like any other word you're learning? Ich mean.. once you opt to start the lesson, those new words are part of your learning routine^^ Otherwise you might just forget to revise them on your own^^
Well, these lessons decay anyway.... Did you get any reply to your reporting it?
I did. It was pretty quick and to the point:
The words learnt from the special edition skills (Christmas, Flirt, Idioms) won't be added to the word count. Sorry about that!
I can't say I'm happy about the decay. They seem to decay so quickly, and other practices don't affect them. Example, él is one of the words I have week in idoms. When I go to that words page, it has 4 bars, but is down to two on my Idom vocab.. ..until I finally did the idom exercise with él in it. I guess eventually the decay will slow down though, and by then I will have everything memorized :)
Hmmm things have changed, I have had both flirting and idoms pop up for practice, mind you not very often. Some units are always coming up for practice but others do not. It does not seem to make sense, but it sure does keep Spanish in my face and that's good
Yes, please! My Christmas skill has already decayed and I would really rather practice the words with the others ones I'm learning from the "general" lessons. Please, please, please!
Thank you :) Adding bonus lessons is great idea. Still, I just want to add that if anyone's serious about learning Spanish slang and/or common expressions, these aren't really useful. If you use most of these expressions in real life with Spanish speakers it'll sound pretty awkward and unnatural. The flirting and idioms lessons are probably not worth the lingots (yet).
*edit: Yes, I know I sound ungrateful. Downvote all you want, I don't care. I'm just offering a different perspective in case someone's wondering whether or not to spend the lingots.
How about hitting the Report a Problem button and suggesting (truly) idiomatic expressions to make the lessons worth the lingots?
Thanks for the bonus skills, Duo!
I've only done the flirting section in French. But I agree with you that the phrases are not really serious. But, then again, if I where to actually go up to a french girl in a bar, and says in my not-perfect-french: "Est-ce que tu veux être ma petite copine", she will bust out laughing and just admire the courage and confidence. There you go, I've just struck up conversation with a amazingly beautiful french girl thanks to a line of Duolingo. ;)
There you go, I've just struck up conversation with a amazingly beautiful french girl thanks to a line of Duolingo. ;)
Albeit an imaginary one... ;-)
Ok. Imaginary one. Still. I leaving for Marocco in two hours. Maybe Ill try it over there. I promise to report back!
This conversation is amazing, and it is not imaginary, how about trying a smile and doing the best you can in what ever language is appropriate
You just need to be careful with the "Tu ressembles à ma prochaine aime" since if you blurt out dernière you will likely get slapped.
I suppose that, at least in my experience, nobody actually says "it's raining cats and dogs" or that they've "let the cat out the bag". There's not really any line of demarcation between idiom and cliché.
Both of those are pretty common where I come from! Obviously it varies from place to place.
I've heard those idioms lots of times too. But they may be more common with older people than the young.
"Lass die Katze aus dem Sack" is a quite common German idiom. Use it an you'll impress Germans.
Both "Es regnet Katzen und Hunde" and "Die Katze aus dem Sack lassen" are actually pretty common. It's not like you hear them on the street every day, but they are still used. Especially as it actually does rain cats and dogs here (nothern germany) quite often.
I suppose that, at least in my experience, nobody actually says "it's raining cats and dogs"
To me it seems like one of those idioms reserved for language courses :). But as QuackSack points out, there are places where it's still in use. That's one problem with teaching idioms: they tend to vary a lot by region.
I would suggest an alternative idiom which is more common in my experience, but unfortunately it would contravene Duolingo's community guidelines. Some idioms are best learned from experience ;-).
I don't think I've heard these idioms spoken much if at all in either German or English — but almost every one of them - English and German - was familiar to me from reading.
As we are all here to learn, we might bear in mind that while it's a triumph of sorts to be able to order breakfast in German, there's true joy in exploring German literature in its many manifestations.
We don't use it, and yet everyone seems to know what it means. That's probably because at one time it was used all the time, but it has become such a cliche that it has dropped out of common use.
The problem with teaching current idioms is that nobody knows which ones will still be in use in 3 years' time, and which ones will drop into obscurity.
Good point jeffers86... idioms are a dime a dozen, but they may be an ace in the hole...
It doesn't matter if they are still in use or not. Language is forever evolving, and how else would we understand idioms in ancient texts written 1000 years ago, if their use is not documented?
Where I live these phrases are very commonly used. I think it's one of those regional differences.
Well, I want to sound natural, but they should keep all of the ones they have, more so we can understand them than use them. Although it'd be great to use better ones too, and mark the obscure ones as being so.
I'm a spanish speaker, could you tell me what kind of expressions are they using right now? I'm curious.
By the way, I get what you mean. Idioms and phrases like that should be translated in their poetic or metaphorical meaning and not word by word. That way, you can actually dive into the other culture's characteristic expressions.
Yeah, but it's cool to be able to tell people who speak these langages some of our wierd (to them at least) expressions!
I'd love to see more of these skills/bonus lessons become available too! One thing that I think would be really cool is if you had ones specific to the language you're learning. Brazil could have one on carnival and Germany could have one on Oktoberfest, etc. Or it would be cool to have one about cities from that country where you learn facts about the city, monuments, etc.
I'm using Duolingo to not only learn a new language myself, but also to teach my daughter Spanish. I would love it if we could learn culture specific phrases once we reach that stage, as it would not only be a great language addition, but also could be incorporated into the Social and Geographical Studies lessons.
I realize Duolingo is about learning new languages, but the chance to incorporate that learning into other areas creates a wealth of ideas. If that were possible, it could engender even more desire to immerse each person further into the language itself.
What a lovely surprise this was! You just never know what surprise may be waiting around the corner! :-)
Got all three. Just finished all three. The Flirting category was hilariously cheesy.
Dear Santa-Duo, thank you for these sweet gifts. However, (please don't think I am not grateful for your efforts!) at the top of my list, there has been, for a very long time:
I wish the French audio sounded right, always
I wish French and English tenses were right, always
I have been good for months and months, I promise!
So, next Tuesday evening, I will be expecting my prime wishes come true.
Though I agree with the sentiment, I don't think it is feasible in such a short time frame, The text-to-speech engine is closed-sourced most likely, making it quite difficult to change or enhance it. It is like attempting to change the taste of "Le Gâteau sans saisir la recette" (hope that is grammatically correct).
The French and English tenses could be fixed if there were enough contributors in English - French, and French - English courses. Unfortunately for now, it is only being contributed by the specialists. Besides, much like translating, writing is a bit of an art, one person's trash is another person's gold.
Edit: Perhaps that is the incubator related gift, adding contributors to the main language courses, and perhaps you will be the main contributor. :)
In your opinion ("such a short time frame") how long should it take to correct the text-to-speech features?
First let me explain a bit of my background, I'm trained as a software developer (IT degree), so I understand a bit more than the average user about some of the challenges the developers face.
Short answer : It depends, if they buy a new engine (very quick if the implementation is easy, few months). If they try to fix the existing one, many months or years.
A text-to-speech software(closed-source/opensource), will either rely on previously recorded voices (recorded probably years ago) or perhaps some emulated voices, designed using computers, and will try to apply some rules to dictate a sentence. If the voice is computer generated it is easier to change rather than if it is recorded, however, good speech-to-text engines cost money, and may have further costs in terms of implementation. The rules can be changed with more ease, as well as some aspects like slow/quick voice, pitch, tone, and so on.
Only the creators of the engine (software) can change it if it closed-source, and Duolingo would need to contact the authors, and ask them to correct the mistakes which may take time (months or years). If it is open-sourced then Duolingo can make alterations themselves and carefully tune the software to make it easier to understand, although they may need an external specialist(s). Another problem is taking care of the accents, and shifting priority (grammar, lessons, skills, and so on). Different accents also pose a problem since they may not always be easily understood by someone from a different country (e.g. France vs Cameroon).
P.S. Any expert may correct me if I'm wrong in any respect.
The speech engine will likely consist of recorded pairs of phonemes (diphones). The production of the words happens when you string them together and apply the rules you mentioned. Generally, fixing the pronunciation of text-to-speech software will consist of changing the rules applied so the stored diphones sound right.
Thanks for the extra info. I'm not an expert on audio or speech generation so I wouldn't know this for sure, but I believe changing those rules would involve trial and error, and take up considerable time.
Once again, anyone may correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it is not just simple matter of realizing something sounds wrong, and changing it easily with a few button presses.
@Dessamator That depends on how good the interface is and how adept the users are :-).
Um, opinions aside, the French tenses are often very specific and Duo provides little more than some slight conjugation guidance. While there are exceptions to every rule there are lots of explicit rules about tenses that are never taught and to some extent willfully ignored by Duo in the treatment of tenses.
Regarding the tenses. It is simply a matter of numbers, and the average user will not understand how complex it is to create and maintain such a large database of words(and sentences) to ensure consistency, and make the English and/or French tenses correct. There are more than 1000 ways to write just about any sentence and to say just about anything, you can use double(triple or quadruple) negatives, passive vs active speech, you can use artistic language, shakespearean language, slang, and a multitude of different ways to write. So I guess some users underestimate the complexity of such a task.
Translation is an art not a science, and the sentences in French are most likely translated from English (the source language).
These are amazing! For the first time in a while I'm actually having fun working on the French tree. I finished the tree a while back and the constant repetition is a drag, so I'm looking forward to more of these in the future!
I bought the French idioms to test it on the iPad, but it didn't seem to carry over. It's a cool idea, but I rarely use the actual website. Will these come to mobile kristinemc?
I bought Spanish idioms and, for me, they do not appear in iOS app, too. A bit disappointing.
Surely they will. I'm pretty sure the Duolingo team will spend some time universalising all the apps so that nothing is missed out on any of the platforms.
I personally love the idea, but I have one request pertaining to how I think we could improve the idea. Having the bonus lessons on the skill tree makes the skill tree look a little spammy and disorganized (IMO), so I think that the lessons should be moved to one central location, whether it be at the bottom of the tree or in a new tab. Other than that I love the idea and hope that there are more bonus lessons to come!
I like it where it is. Are they going to remain there permanently? Hope so!
I certainly hope they don't remove Christmas once the holidays are over.
I just completed the first lesson in the new Christmas unit. Personally, I think it was a little difficult for the location it was placed. There was quite a bit of grammar that is taught later in the tree in this early lesson. Perhaps you could rearrange the lessons? Other than that, ¡Feliz Navidad y pròspero Año Nuevo!
Duolingo uses more difficult phrases for basic skills once you have completed those advanced skills. I don't think someone would see the same phrases you did if he just reached Christmas skill in his tree.
What you're describing is how it used to be. Now if you are doing higher level skills or if you're finished with the skill tree and you want to review earlier lessons they will be at the same level of difficulty as they were when you first practiced them.
CannedTomatoSoup, I'm not sure how I feel about this all... I agree the Christmas one is a little early in the tree (but I guess it reaches more people this side of X-mas this way) but I like how they look. I hope they glow purple instead of gold when complete...
On that note I would like to add, that store soon will seem overpacked due to the current layout with the huge cards. Maybe the lessons should have there own little section, or way smaller icons =)
Anytime Kristen ;)
- Like I said, I love the idea and I don't want to seem like I hate it. It truly is a great idea, I just wanted to address my concern. Not trying to be a hater ;)
I like where it its, I'd hate to see additional tabs, or it lumped together separate from the rest of the tree. To me, it blends in well where it is.
I like the idea of separating it a bit somehow. It seems strange to have a 'Christmas' lesson thrown in right after the basics. Not sure how though.
I noticed these and absolutely love them. I'd quite happily spend my lingots for seasonal and quirky lessons. Thank you very much.
Love the additional lessons!!!!!!! Thanks!!!!! Gimme more, gimme more!
What a fabulous gift! Gift??? what and I thinking!! I gotta pay for em ... that ain't no gift! Gifts are free!
Just joking! - I love it. And flirting too - hoo-hoo! F#$%@# marvelous (excuse my language).
The extra skills are not in the app for android. Hope it comes also in the app :-)
I really, really like the new bonus lesson concepts and I'm wondering if we can expect the addition of new bonus lessons to the store to be a regular/semi-regular thing from now on? Also, I think this would be a perfect platform to introduce lessons for regionally specific vocabulary like vosotros and voseo in Spanish, for instance, and maybe even country specific vocabulary lessons or lessons about common loanwords from other languages in the language you're learning, etc., etc. That way people who are interested in such expansions can have them and people who aren't can just choose not buy those lessons.
This is great! And very timely. I was just wondering where I would learn to tell my German friends Merry Christmas so I could be sure to do it right and there was my answer on my learning tree
surprisingly enough you don't learn how to say merry christmas in italian with the bonus lessons... strange
Really?! That is a surprise. The German version was decent in covering the most common things you might want to say at Christmas time. I appreciated the experience. You might report it in the support section and see what happens.
On the left of your screen there is a support tab. You can open that and add your concerns there. This speeds up the process in getting your issues directly to the people that can do something about it.
I did on mine - I think it just depends what random selection you get. Comunque....
Thanks for these! Love them. Although, I do think the flirting set could be improved. "Is heaven missing an angel?" is more likely to get you laughed at than kissed in any language. Still amusing, though.
Also, would it be possible to view these on the app? They don't seem to be connected there yet.
Oh, and thanks for the idioms! That set is going to be seriously handy.
I'm pretty sure the Flirtation set, which is rather overdrawn, was intended to inject a bit of humor into all of this — don't you?
Eh, true enough. The main issue I have is that the set supposedly includes a few words I haven't seen yet, but I never came across them in practice. The Italian words for "taxi" and "model," specifically. Instead I got half a dozen repetitions of "ciao bello" (hi handsome).
I'm guessing the best tool is the ability to express yourself properly in the other language.
What would be funny is a sort of flirting minigame: an actual "flirting excercise": get the girl/boy by picking the correct answers, and not making any mistakes.
This reminds me of a time when a couple cousins of mine decided they wanted to go pick up girls. So they were practicing in my room before their "adventure". They came up with a few strange but common ones (loosely translated):
- Portuguese (PT): O teu pai deve ser um grande ladrao. Girl: "o que?", Guy: "Ele roubou as estrelas do ceu e meteu nos teus olhos."
English(EN) : Your dad must be a great thief. Girl : What?, Guy: "He stole the stars from the sky and put them into your eyes".
English: Guy: "Did you fall", Girl : "No, why !???", Guy: "Because an angel like you could only fall from heaven".
PT : Guy: "Es uma larapia ". Girl : "o que?", Guy: "Tu roubaste o meu coracao".
- EN: Guy: "You are a thief ". Girl : "What!??", Guy: "You stole my heart".
These are just the one's I can remember of the top of my head, suffice to say they went to their adventure, and when they returned they told me they didn't manage to get even a single girl. Some girls told them "vao se meter com miudas da vossa idade", "go play with girls your own age". Oh, and I remember one of my favorite toons from when I was a kid, Johnny Bravo. He would have lines like "Ohh hot sexy mama, wanna do the monkey"(that's a dance).
So yah, whether it works or not is irrelevant, people will still try. Even Johny bravo got a girl once, as I recall. :)
How long are these out? and once I get a lesson will it stay there forever?
What happens when we buy them in one language, do they show up in other languages as well or we need to buy them for each language separately?
I love the idea - I have already bought 2 of them for my french and reverse tree. Just a question - currently I am not far enough in my tree to unlock Flirting - will it be available for buying indefinitely or it is just a limited offer? I would hate to miss the opportunity to get all the skills.
Tried it. I'm pretty sure its because of a test group I'm in right now. Thanks for the suggestion though! It was a good idea :)
Try clearing your browser's cache and cookies. Then, close and reopen the browser (or just try a different browser).
Of course, it very well might be interference from your test group, in which case, I cannot help.
I tried a different browser, still wasn't there. So, I'm thinking test group. I'll put it into my report tonight though. Thank you though for trying!
Yeah, Someone posted that they wiped out their 200+ Lingot supply buying all of the bonus language lessons for each of their languages. Eek.
Though you have to admit, it's not a bad thing to save up lingots for...
i only had 51 lingots so i skipped on the christmas one and got the others.. should be holidays anyway, not just christmas
I have to agree - I realize that perhaps, in the languages currently available, Christianity is the dominant religion, but... some of us Jews feel left out a bit. ;)
But now that they have a 'pay for extra lessons' model, we could see additional topics in those veins?
I would be all for seeing lessons for Hanukkah, Eid, Diwali, Matariki, Lammas, etc. -- but the vocabulary in the Christmas skill really is Christmas-related (rather than general "holiday" related) so in this case I think at least the title's appropriate. If they do Hanukkah next year maybe we'll get eight surprises rather than six :).
Bonnes fêtes et une bonne année à tous et toutes!
Happy holidays and a happy New Years to one and all!
Agreed, as the 'pay for extra lessons' is now up and running, lets have lots more lessons .... for any reason or none at all. Love the concept. Looking forward to more lessons ...
I think if that happens, they'll probably have to add a new subsection in the lingot store. If there are many lessons it would be hard to navigate through all of them with those big icons and descriptions.
Oui, I thought about that myself (even though I am Christian) and agree.
It would be nice to include Hannukah (and perhaps other religious/non-religious holidays).
Maybe they will do it next year. :-)
More bonus lessons would be far better - focus on want you ant and/or more lessons, more words, more xp, more lingots, more lesson money!
Agreed ... great if there can be a variety of bonus lessons so that one could go with ones interests ... or all of them if one is motivated. It would be great if the words of the bonus lessons would also appear in ones word count!
Personally, for my purposes in learning the language, I would've skipped the flirting if I was short on lingots. As it is I intend on doing that one last. I see how it could be useful to some, but it's not very useful for me since I plan on using my Spanish predominantly with my preschool students and their parents.
It's not really helpful for flirting... It's mostly just for fun. I don't see how they could really be used effectively. They teach things like "Did it hurt when you fell from heaven?" That's not a serious pickup line at all... It's more of a joke.
Yeah, it's too cheesy and literal to be helpful. Some of them are really cringe-worthy and creepy. But the one that really bothered me was "perdón, estaba perdido en tus ojos." Obviously it's meant to be silly, but still it makes a lot more sense to say "me he perdido en tus ojos" if you're trying to flirt with someone you've just met.
Yeah, it seems like a better title for the unit would be "Bad pickup lines." Although some things are helpful. I'm glad that they teach how to say "in love," at least.
I love this gift. Finally I have something to spend lingots on. I hope more will come out periodically. It will excite me to try to gather lingots again.
Love them! What a nice surprise to find today. I was going to ask about an idioms section being created. Thank you, Duo Dear Ones.
Has anyone else finished all the bonus lessons yet? I kind of felt like I had to finish them right away because I spent good lingots on these lessons.
I just equipped the idioms lesson and am waiting for the guy I share an office with to leave so that I can practice! Haha :) Mostly I am just thrilled that I no longer have a completed tree for the first time in a long time. It makes it soooo much more fun than just practicing to keep the lessons golden.
Just tried the flirting lesson. I think they are fun. As we would say in U.S.A., they are kind of cheesy!. But cheesy makes me laugh. :) And if you have the right personality, cheesy can make whoever you are flirting with laugh too.
OMG! Today I thought it would be cool if you added them, and now I enter here and OMG ahjofhadogdahj.
Will they be like forever, or you'll quit them later? I hope you leave them forever, because I want to learn German when I finish with French :(
Another good idea could be to have added lessons about short forms, abbreviations and acronyms. In the German lessons, we're always coming across things like u.a, e.V, GmbH, and AG, etc. that I think it would be really handy to know.
I loved it too, but I thought if it we could get the skill on the app too, it would be much better.
(In context of the long term) is there going to be the option for users to create their own lessons?
I really hope so. I think it'd be so cool if users could create their own lessons specific to different types of Spanish, so we could all learn expressions/words used in various Spanish-speaking countries. I don't know if the same applies to the other languages, but yeah. Cool idea in general.
Thanks for these. Just got home from my French class this evening, where we had a Christmas "quiz". So this new skill helped to reinforce what I learned in class today (together with a few other words we weren't introduced to in class). Looking forward to doing the other two extra skills over the next day or two. :-)
are these only out for a limitied time? How long can we use them for?
It appears they've forgotten to add a check for the purchase on the skill page, so you can do the bonus skills even if you haven't purchased them if you go to the direct links:
Take advantage of it now, because I expect they're going to fix that bug.
Thank you very much! That's great! But i'm not sure, are they for ever, or they'll disappear after holidays? I'm not so far in French tree to buy all the bonuses, and i'm afraid I can't go as fast to reach the last bonus (the most desirable one ^_^) till the end of December (or even end of January).
I like this idea and expect more bonus skill ! And maybe you can create some lessons about culture. These new skills spice up my holiday season, and Duo spices up my life.
I second the bonus content about culture. Perhaps also travel, ... I am learning Italian especially because I am going on a trip to Italy (Roma, Firenze and Napoli) and want to be able to have a good understanding of the language.
Duolingo is awesome, but phrases like "the sunglasses are in my boot" or "my cats ate the pasta" don't always cut it, I'd like to see some more real-life situations and conversations in duolingo. Using the language in its proper context. How different words can have different meanings. Jokes (the hardest thing to get right in any language), that kind of thing)
Don't get me wrong, duolingo is amazing, especially if you consider it is free.
Right on! I agree with every point here. A great learning tool at no cost with a huge fan base that can be much improved. And is. What I like is that the Duo team is not standing still when they probably could. Improvements are constantly in the works as we wait with excitement for what comes next.
Will these be available in the store all year round or will they retire after christmas? I don't have a high enough skill level to unlock the third lesson yet, but I don't want to miss out!
Yes that would be good, although in some of the Spanish ones they are given in the answer as the English equivalent, eg 'chip off the old block' - what it does not say is what the idiom literally means so that one con get ones head around the thinking. The above in Spanish appears to be (literally) 'as the pole so the splinter' - which is cute! - but I had to look it up.
Here's a screen caputure. Do you have this tab? http://www.subirimagenes.net/i/131221074427522776.jpg
Maybe you can add a badge system and you can buy some of those badges with Lingots.
Thank you so much for creating them, this is a fantastic gift especially for the website only user. Finally saving the lingots made a lot of sense. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I see you implemented one of my ideas/suggestions (1) , well done staff. I haven't gone through all of them, but I do hope we have some Chinese sayings. One of my favorite is, "True knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance". ( Kong Qiu, n.d). Another is "Silence is a true friend who never betrays" ( Kong Qiu, n.d)
Thank you very much; I really enjoyed these lessons! Happy Holidays to the whole team!
Merci to Duolingo for the lovely gifts. Fun!
Joyeux Noël! Bonne année et bonne santé!
I love it so much!! I wasn't expecting this! It's so cool! I'm so exciting for the new lessons, (and are interesting topics :D ) Finally, I can spend my Lingots very happily. Thank you so much, Duolingo staff!! Best present so far! :D
This is amazing! Thank you!
And thank goodness I've been saving up lingots, I have just enough to buy all the skills in Spanish, French, and German!
Just when I'm approaching the end of my tree- more lessons! Thanks so much! There is now an incentive to earn lingots. I hope more new lessons will be offered in the future.
the flirting skill does not show up in the spanish store for me, but the christmas and idioms do. anyone know why that could be?
Its not in the store, because you're not as far in the tree. But there should be three stars in the tree. Same with me ;-)
I don't mean to be the voice of doom here but is this the beginning of Duolingo charging for more advanced language segments? Will there soon be an option to buy lingots? I hope not. This site is great as it is and it would be a shame if it went the same way as LiveMocha and the rest.
Absolutely not, connal. We thought this would be fun! It does not foreshadow any payment for learning :)
Actually, Rosetta Stone bought Livemocha but Livemocha is still free.
On Livemocha it depends on the quality of the reviews you get from native speakers. For example, some people on Livemocha write "good job" and there's still lots of mistakes. Plus they don't always tell you what your mistakes are. I was on the old Livemocha website for a couple years, mainly helping people with English and really enjoyed it, till they upgraded. I don't like the new website very much. Livemocha has me rated as "Expert" for reviewing English. I told a couple people around here that I'm considered an expert and they laughed.
Now I'm on Duolingo and learning languages for a change. On Duolingo, you have the program telling you your mistakes immediately. So the robot voice isn't perfect. It's still better than learning from a book because you do get some idea how it sounds.
so when hebrew hatches out of the incubator will christmas be changed to channukah? ;-)
I just tried out my first lesson from these. I love these gifts. They just keep getting better and better. I can't wait to see what's next!
haha lol thank you so much! (giggling a little because I just did a flirting one and I think it's hilarious... haha)
Danke, danke, GRAZIE!!! I hope that they won't be very expensive (well, I have a pretty miserable situation with my lingots now - you can surely imagine ;) ). I personally look so much forward to the idioms!!! Thanks once again!
Wonderful! I was going to splurge on the champagne tracksuit but this is even better. Danke, Duolingo is the best.
Is there a way to have the new skills in the mobile versions? I like learning with the ipad app.
Ahhh this is fantastic~ Thank you so much for adding this! And making us buy them with lingots does give us more of a use for them. Perhaps it would be useful to come up with more unlockables in the future?
Thank you so much Kristine for all that you guys do for us! I just finished "flirting" ; I think it was a super cool idea, but I couldn't help but notice there are a lot of mistakes and correct answers that aren't accepted in this section. This is so unlike what I normally experience on this site. Maybe there was a bit of a rush to get the bonus lessons out for the holidays. People are talking a lot about this on the discussion threads. Happy Holidays!
Ja, guten tag. ich bin fahad. Ich speil fussball. kommen sie aus deutschland? finally i can speak germany woohoo !!!
Thank you. Also, thanks for putting Duo back with his flag - he was missing a few days and I am immature enough that I was disappointed to see him gone. I figured after I finished the bonus rounds he would come back. I have not quite completed them yet, but he still returned.
The new skills are an exciting addition, especially for those who finished the skill tree and were getting tired of just practicing. Any chance I can return my champagne tracksuit (from the app) for my 20 lingots back, now that lingots can buy something useful?
Which French skills do I need to have to be able to see these new ones in the store?
You are far enough in French to open up the first new skill. My French is not that far, but I see the yellow star in a box with a red lingot at the upper right corner on the other languages. On French if you are not far enough it should have a yellow star with a lock at the bottom right corner. Bonus Skill: Christmas should be available if you go under the tab - Store. (15 lingots) You should be able to see when each bonus skill will become available on the skill tree. Bonne chance!
Merci bien! I can't see any new skills yet, but nevermind, I hope I will see them when I advance a bit more in the skill tree. (I reset my French progress, so I'm only on level 6).
Hy :).. I bought the chirstmas bonus skill, before duolingo changed his interface :).. And now I don't have it in my level tree nor in the shop :(..
I still have mine too, so I think Usagi may be mistaken. You can't buy it anymore, but it should still be available to you if you purchased it.
I'd make a new discussion in troubleshooting or send an email to DL using the support button and describe your issue.
I purchased it.. but I didn't complete any lesson.. maybe that's why it is gone :(....
Guys,please HELP! I passed all the levels in German,but I have only 2 of the bonus skills- flirt and idioms (and have passed their exercises) HOW TO FIND MY CHRISTMAS BONUS SKILL WHEN IT DOESNT SHOW UP IN THE ‘SHOP ’????????
The Christmas bonus skill was only available for a short while. It is not being offered right now.
Hello, I saved up lingots to get a special skill (french flirting) and I still can't get it. I can't find anywhere what the corresponding level I need to be is for it, could you tell me please? (It also might be nice to indicate it in the lingot store so people know ahead of time.) Thanks!
These are great; perhaps you could have different bonuses for different celebrations- so French students can learn special Bastille day vocab, for example. Keep up the great work!
I love this idea, but I am only seeing the same idioms and flirting lessons in my store. Am I missing something? In general though: Will these choices ever be switched out? (I really have no use for the flirting lesson and don't want to waste lingots just for the sake of it). Also, will there be more slots in the future if you do offer more of the extra lessons. Will we be able to archive old lessons once we are done with them to make room? This whole area of the store intrigues me, but it just seems so under developed right now and I have no use for the lingots I am earning.
I have tried for the past 2 years to buy the Christmas bonus skill and it hasn't become available. I have completed everything else over and over. How can I get this skill so that I can complete? Any advice would be helpful
I was also hoping to buy this skill. I checked every day, but it never showed up in the store...