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"Et avec plus de femmes"

January 14, 2013

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Why is it not "plus des femmes"?

January 14, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Remy
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"des" is an indefinite plural article:

  • "Et avec des femmes" means "And with (some) women"

In our case, "des femmes" is preceded by "plus de" (determiner), so "de" (from "plus de") and "des" (from "des femmes") get contracted into "de":

  • "plus de femmes"
January 14, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Mylenthes

How can you tell the difference in conversation?

April 22, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Remy
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The difference is in the pronunciation.

You can practice your listening skills with these links:

There, you can click on the "speaker" button and listen to the differences of pronunciation.

April 23, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Vagabond.Prodigy

Should I say,in the structure word + de + des + another_word ,just like plus de des femmes in this case,the de + des part will be contracted into only one word de ?

May 7, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Remy
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Right, "plus de des" is grammatically incorrect.

You have to say:

  • "plus de" (in this case: "de" is an indefinite contracted article, that comes from the contraction of "de" (preposition) and "des" (indefinite article)).
May 16, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Vagabond.Prodigy

I learned from @Sitesurf :"plus de", "autant de", "moins de" = all are constructed without an article.

May 7, 2013
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