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"Consejos vendo y para no tengo."

Translation:Do as I say, not as I do.

December 18, 2013

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ellieban

The English idiom here is "do as I say, not as I do". The literal translation is "I sell advice, but I do not take it"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/vandermonde

Does it just mean that you don't follow your own advice? Or does it mean that you don't follow your own advice, but still believe other people should?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ellieban

Yup, definitely the latter. It's saying you should do as I am telling you, even though I don't do that myself and we both know it. It's usually used in a self-deprecating humorous way to show that the person talking knows they should be doing it differently and aren't but still recommend you do it the right way. If that makes any sense!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gr8rubs

Doctors make the worst patients. I think that's about it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JLD9wp

But isnt that just practice what you preach?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

Well, Practice what you preach is essentially the reciprocal expression. It's the "flip side". This expression, like Do as I say, not as I do, is what you say while telling someone to do something that you don't do. Practice what you preach is a RESPONSE from someone who has been told to do something that you don't do. This time it is the person who has been told to do something who is telling you that you are not doing what you just told them to do.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

hmm to me the contrary


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hoshi61686

Thank you so much it helped me a lot! It clears up the confusion so much!:)))


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/noonook-nooky

Much more the second, and that you are an hypocrite on top :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

not necessarily you know what to do but not strong of motivated enough to do it yourself however it may be valuable advice for others


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/camillab8

I guessed "I don't follow my own advice," and it was counted wrong.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ellieban

I think that's probably because you're missing the second part, which is "but you still should", although that's probably too many words for Duo to accept it :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TraceurGato

It's fine. But (by the "I don't") remember that you can refer it to another person changing the verb suffix (and the omitted subject) or using it selfishly on yourself, in a (humourous or not) rhetorical/metaphorical way of talking about other people (it's the most common way you will hear that idiom at 99'99% of the cases).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/-_Matthew-_

Read localruffian's comment above.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/shiraenosh

The literal translation is "I sell advices but I dont have any for myself"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

hmm not working for me...Oh I read it again and you're right, yes it's pretty good.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/adrian163527

hello Ellieban, I'm a spanish native speaker and I've never heard this idiom


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

Ha ha ha, when were you born? I'm sure any native person from any countries would not know all of them...You're forgiven :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DeanG6

I tried 'Advices I sell and for me I do not have.' but it was graded wrong. I'll try yours next time. Thanks. Maybe something like, 'I sell advice, and I have none for me.'

-- OK. I tried 'I sell advice, and for me I do not have any.' and it was graded wrong. But it came back with a suggested correct answer, 'I sell advice and for me I have none.' So instead of 'I do not have any' it prefers 'I have none.'


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/prince-freddie

Do as I say, not as I do


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DeanG6

I am guessing you missed the point of our discussion. We are trying to figure out what is the Literal Translation for this sentence, (as opposed to the Idiomatic Translation which everyone knows by now). Apparently, according to the information I received when I last answered this sentence on DL 4 months ago, duolingo suggests the Literal Translation to be 'I sell advice and for me I have none.'


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

yep I like this too :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dr_Bridges

Thank you, I'm noticing these aren't literal translations most of the time and it's making it more confusing. I wish we could learn the literal translations, since we're learning the language and all...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

I'm surprised you wrote this; as literal translation usually aren't the way to go. But understanding the meaning makes more sense. "Advice I sell but don't have any for myself" - doesn't really cut it....

There are plenty of suggestions here, some taken from other languages... Sayings are fun and diverse and sometimes open to different interpretations


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Donell927599

Thanks for the literal translation @ellieban. Just wanted to know it


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/luong.nguy1

How about "I make more money selling advice than taking my advice" ?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ellieban

I don't think so, not exactly. I'm not certain, but I would say the difference is with the quality of the advice and whether it should be taken or not. With your translation, you are suggesting the advice is bad and you're better off selling it to gullible people than following it yourself. With the idiom above, though, it's implying the advice itself is good and should be taken, it's just you are choosing not to.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bryantanner

"Take my advice. I'm not using it." (I speak sarcasm as a second language.)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheQueenZerelda

Sarcasm was my first language, but that didn't work out so well...so i learned English. I still get the two mixed up when i'm tired...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tony506305

Be careful, many are not capable of interpreting sarcasm. They will think you are speaking your mind.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Neonknight

In Hungary we say "he drinks wine but preaches water".


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xmatnazarov

Here in Uzbekistan we have: "Mullani aytganini qil, qilganini qilma!" It means "Do as the priest says, not as he does!" :))


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MonicaAnastase

That is so interesting - we have the same equivalent of this saying in Romanian, "Să faci ce zice popa, nu ce face popa"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KJM20122

that funny dude


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Akbar_2020

In Urdu language used mostly by Pakistanis, Indians, Bengalis, etc, the same idiom is:

"دوسروں کو نصیحت، خود میاں فصیحت؟"

Meaning: "You advising others but by yourself are just Mr. Advisor?"

Silently, putting shame on you to not act like what you said. Insulting without saying.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sarah18680

In German as well.


[deactivated user]

    We don't have an idiom in Italian, just a literal translation.

    Fai come dico, non come faccio.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KsenyaLu

    In Russian we have: "Чужую беду - руками разведу, свою никак не обойду". It means, that I can help other people with there troubles, but cannot help myself. (Sorry for my English). Maybe it is correct for this


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/spinnity

    I think that Russian saying sounds like a very good match! And there is no need for apologies -your English is solid! Just change "there" (opposite of here) for their (possessive form for "they"). :-)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/iggyl

    another fitting Russian expression in my mind (Russian is my native language) is "сапожник без сапог", which literally means "a shoemaker without shoes". It's used to describe someone who's so busy helping others (as in, making shoes for others) that he has no time to help himself (goes barefoot). I feel that this better conveys "the spirit" of this Spanish idiom.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gr8rubs

    in English we say "the cobbler's children have no shoes".


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dar320

    My grand children say whats a cobbler


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    I am not surprised. I am 62 and, although I do know what a cobbler is, have seldom seen a cobbler advertise themselves as such, and certainly not recently. Even places called shoe repair have almost disappeared, at least around me in San Diego.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    Oui oui...Le cordonier est toujours le + mal chausse The cobler is always the one with the worst shoes :) And also Facile a dire mais plus difficile a faire Easy to say but harder to do...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LoloAzizieh

    in Arabic we have the same thing to Russian, we say السكافي حافي و الحايك عريان which means ( a shoemaker has no shoes and the dressmaker\tailor is naked


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hollyxyzzy

    We used to have a saying when I was younger, "The shoemaker's children go barefoot." Same thing.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/iggyl

    Coming back to this - I asked my Guatemalan teacher, and she hasn't heard of this expression, so could be something regional too. She in turn asked her friends, and collectively they agreed that it most likely means más o menos what Duo suggests (and not what I thought of, making a parallel with a Russian expression). I still have not met a native speaker who's familiar with this phrase, and who could educate me. But then again - language learning is a journey, not a task that has a start and finish, at least in my mind.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    4 y Ago! anyway when we speak of native speakers in Spanish we become a little vague as Spanish is one of the world main languages spoken in many different countries (primarily S America) I think perhaps it is a situation even surpassing English. Hence is the diversity and differences that can been encountered with word, spelling and meanings.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Grace-Georgia

    Is here any native spanish speaker who wants to give an example or put this spanish phrase into context? When do people say it? :-) [Do they say it when they advice other people to follow their ideas and not their actions (as the english phrase says) or do they say it when they wish they could behave in the proper way and advice theirselves as easy as they give advice to other people?]


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DaniloAustria

    imagine a friend tells you how to deal with your girlfriend/boyfriend problem and he gives good advice, but cannot figure out his own problems with his/her girlfriend/boyfriend. it was used in this context in a television show I watched.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arzumemir

    Theory is something, "to practice it" is something else


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JenGresham

    In English, this phrase is most commonly used by parents to their children. For example, suppose they tell their kids to eat healthy food while they themselves eat a lot of sweets. If the children question them on this kind of behavior, you would say "Do as I say, not as I do."


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jeffers148598

    Which is bad parenting, don't do that lol


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/THeNeeno

    It means I can tell you how to live, give you a solution to your problem, etc., but I can't figure out my own problems (which are usually the same or similar).

    For instance, Ramon says, “Don't give your son everything he wants! You'll spoil him and he'll become a jerk!" Carlos says, “That's easy for you to say, but your son is the most spoiled rotten kid ever!" Ramon could be defensive and say, “and that's how I know!" or he can humbly and humorously use this phrase.

    Any time somebody is free with advice that they would be better served following themselves, this applies. The Christians have that saying about removing the plank from your own eye before talking about the speck in somebody else's. It is similar, but it is advice to the hypocrite instead of a lighthearted summary of the situation by the hypocrite.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/thirty6ers

    "advices bandage and for me no have". Close enough ;)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tu.8zPhLD72zzoZN

    Huh???! A bandage is something you put on a cut or wound. No, it is not close enough.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/thirty6ers

    The first definition I got when highlighting 'vendo' was 'bandage', and since I had no idea what the idiom was, I translated it literally word for word and that is the result. It was obviously wrong and the 'close enough' was supposed to be a joke... perhaps not your kind of humour. Also, I know what a bandage is thank you.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tu.8zPhLD72zzoZN

    I was at a complete loss. Bandages are "las vendas". We have to get to work reporting to Duolingo again. Sorry! I didn't think you could know and pick it over "I sell" as the best fit for the sentence. My fault! But really, I have seen worse sentences and people weren't making a joke, so I didn't assume it was one. http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-spanish/bandage


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/thirty6ers

    Oh thanks for the clarification! Will definitely remember that one. Haha no worries, it was a horrible attempt of one anyway! :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/glazewg

    I thought it was really funny. Keep your sense of humor!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tessbee

    Thought it was funny too, thirty; I even laughed when I read it. Thnx for the humor :).


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TamaraGant

    I love this part of duolingo i have learned so much. I also find some of the people have a really good sense of humour. To have a good sense of humour is what you need to keep when learning to speak another language :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miles.Alem

    "I sell advice but for me I have none" was accepted as well


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/THeNeeno

    That is exactly what this says.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BogBob

    In Romania we have something similar, yet a bit funnier: "Fa ce zice, nu ce face popa". It can be translated as : "Do as the priest says, not as he himself does"


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MattKolako

    In Kazakhstan we say do as the herder not as a the sheep


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    This does not seem to be the same meaning


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Splarnst

    I read "consejos" as "conejos" and thought it was about a pet store owner who doesn't have any of their own pets. At first.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    Loved this! I sell rabbits and I'm starving as I did not keep any for myself...near enough:)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LindaHill

    I was wondering if "offer" was suitable as a translation for "sell." I translated it as "I offer advice and have none for myself."


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/clawedinvader

    The word "offer" or even "give" would make sense, but I went with "sell" out of fear!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ivandelft

    I thought 'practice what you preach' would be a good English equivalent, but it was counted as wrong. Is it?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/megustamivida

    "Practice what you preach" seems like it would be a good reply to one who sells advice but has none for himself. :-D


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Pigslew

    Obviously best, mgmv, but not accepted!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CatMcCat

    Still not accepted, Sept. 9/15, but reported.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DJG4

    I agree with you that this English phrase helps to understand the Spanish one but has a slightly different meaning - this is what you might say to someone who believes they can give advice to others but don't think they need to bother (a bit like how some adults say to kids 'Do as I say, not as I do') Perhaps the Spanish phrase could be taken as words spoken by an arrogant person who feels that they can be hypocritical.....or perhaps it could be a phrase spoken by someone in despair?.... which would make the meaning very different - rather 'I can help you with your problems, but I can't help myself, I'm at a loss with mine'. It would be really good if a native Spanish speaker could give us a context for it. Can someone give us a scenario where it would be relevant and appropriate?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    I don't think it is something so rigid as you already can see 2 different situations it could be applied to. It is just a saying and I would vouch for the helpless person to use it. It seems to me it's a recognition of like of power and so be it.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/madazahata

    Yes I also agree that adults say it to kids. I have only ever said it to my kids and also only ever had it said to me as a child. So I never really got the sense of it being hypocritical or arrogant but more along the lines of 'do it this way now and then when you are older you can make up your own mind'. I suppose it may be construed as arrogant or hypocritical but I have always thought of it as basically 'you're not old enough to make that decision yet' which at worst could be slightly condescending, but only if you're being a twat about it


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DJG4

    PS Ive just notched that DaniloAustria above gives a useful context they have seen it used!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ivandelft

    Thanks, that was helpful!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Pigslew

    That was mine too, Ivan.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MagicalAstronomy

    This would be more like "I don't practice what I preach."


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AchyuthanS

    My doctor uses the needle on me, and the pill on himself. Not an idiom, but people say that a lot.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lilush0_0

    I wrote: tips sell but non are left for me! :0) I'm having fun with these idioms, and learn what they really mean while laughing


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/localruffian

    "I sell advice but have none for myself." is counted correct much to my surprise.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/spinnity

    Which is not quite like "do as I say, not as I do". It might be more like "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". I am telling others how to live, but I am not taking my advice. It's weird that this idiom is in the first person! Linguistic ice cream headache!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TylerEllin1

    Both idioms offered by Duo give advice while admitting hypocrisy. The glass house idiom is used to accuse others of hypocrisy.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    I don't see this that way. To me (remote from the topic though) it means people having a go at other should first evaluate their own strength in regard to the possible consequence, it's more than hypocritical it may be quite dangerous!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DanTheYoutuber

    DUO IS A HYPOCRIT!!!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MichaelRGB

    Did Duo make 28 accounts to downvote you with? Memes be damned. lol


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KNagyTimi

    Cool! Thanks for the explanation! I didn't really get it, but now I see that it's something like our "bort iszik és vizet prédikál" in Hungarian, that says "he [a priest] is drinking wine while preaching water".


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PavelVlad23

    We have a similar one in Romania : "Fa ce face popa, nu ce zice popa!" which is " Do what the priest says, not what he does". And is filled also with the idea of priests being not so pure as we think and in their time out of church, they do the same mistakes as a normal human being.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GioielloAc

    That saying came from the Bible when Jesus said: "The scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So practice and observe everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.…" - Matthew 23:2-3


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MexicoMadness

    I remember another saying of Jesus, something like"Take the log/plank (?) out of YOUR eye, before removing the sliver from another".


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Violet696688

    Well put!! I like what you said!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/miroslav729599

    Ne slušaj popa šta priča već gledaj šta radi. This is the Serbian translate.Thanks.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/petkoo2

    Quod licet Jovi, non licet bovi. (Not 100%, but close enough)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KatPavi

    Sorry for having to react here, nothing personal, but very cold, not marginally close. Latin proverb: "Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi" would translate into: behavior acceptable for Jupiter (Latin: Iuppiter/Iovis), is not acceptable for a bull. How I see the meaning is that some people are more entitled than the others. Has nothing to do with inability to follow one's own advice. Cheerz!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MarilynVan2

    Isn't that the truth based in cultural history!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/THeNeeno

    The “glass houses" idiom is accusatory toward others. That isn't what this idiom means.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/billj6

    The glass house aphorism isn't right either. It's an observation that we all are flawed and should not criticize. The "do as I say" is spoken as a parent to a child where the well being of that specific person is of importance to the speaker.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/samuriscimi

    We call it a "brain freeze" in English :P


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Melooley

    I'm a native English speaker who is used the saying "ice cream headache" more often than "brain freeze," although I'm familiar with both. (...and yes, growing up in Texas, USA, we'd say "ice cream headache" even when eating something other than ice cream. Then again, I know my family has weird expressions that not everyone uses...)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/allietweettweet

    From Alabama here. I had never heard ice cream headache but i like it!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlexeyShah

    can you explain those phrases about ice cream and brain freezer? I am not a native speaker, and I am not sure if I get it right. )) thanks


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    Sometimes when people eat or drink very cold things they get a quick sharp headache. People call that a brain freeze or an ice cream headache.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BarbaraMorris

    If you eat ice cream too fast, you get a sudden headache. This is called "a brain freeze" or "an ice cream headache".

    But, for maximum confusion, sometimes people also use the term "brain freeze" to mean their mind suddenly went blank.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/martind611973

    If a wolfhound hunts penguin it'll eat preist.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ohioscout2

    It makes sense in the first person because both the literal and 'standard' English translations are in the first person. Also, this idiom is meant to criticize those who tell people how to do something, but do not do it that way themselves. In other words, everybody should do this even though I don't do it.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    The standard English equivalent actually is not in the first person. It is actually in the second person imperative. It is a command form. The subject pronoun I is used because traditional grammar rules require the nominative case on both sides of the as. He is as tall as I (am) is the officially correct form, even though me is a common mistake which may soon become the rule. But when you alter the verb in the sentence, no one changes the first person since you can't drop the second verb and therefore have a dependent clause.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    Ha ha, nice place to learn English hey. I had a go at it for more than 50 y now and coming here may be the 'icing' on the cake to further my study...But I already talk good English though :))) I even talk more better sometimes.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Athena_Drakerav

    So they saying's a little more honest in Spanish


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Archie20499

    i hate you grandma


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thea.Rodriguez

    Because none of it is literal, and you are taking it literally!...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/2Bibliophile

    Esto describe mi mamá xD


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marissoledad

    Esto describe todos los padres y madres en el mundo XD


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CScubing

    Unfortunately 'I am a hypocrite' is not counted.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/allietweettweet

    I don't see this as meaning hypocrisy. Some people are wise and able to help others by giving useful advice. But when a situation is close to them, it may be hard to step back and see the bigger picture.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Cici455680

    (At least in my small life) This has always been used as someone about to do something stupid and saying not to do what they do. Or when my sister curses, then later when i say 'dang it' and she yells at me she says 'do as I say, not as I do'

    I am just slightly happy i can pull this on her next time


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    shouldn't be either! Re Edit Why my reply is nowhere near the post I reply to?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Manuel290305

    What about ''I sell advice and have none for myself''?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/james.ray1

    Thank you, I had difficulty figuring out the actual Spanish meaning from this, but now that I hover over the words again, your translation seems to make more sense and be closer in meaning than "Do as I say, not as I do."


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    I spent one hour here James.Ray for the same reason...But enjoy all the comments and as you did found help. My reason to come here was to let Duo know we'd appreciate more explaining with the literal translation.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gehayi

    I tried "Advice I sell and for myself have none" and was informed that translating "y" as "and" and "tengo" as "(I) have" was incorrect.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    Duo often has no good way to demonstrate what it doesn't like if it is an answer that it too far from the expected. You word order is very strange for English. I did read in the stream above that someone was marked correct for translating it pretty much literally but using standard syntax. I think it was I sell advice but have none for myself. Except if you are translating into a similar idiom in English, translating word for word and not using proper English syntax is wrong.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/beeohdee

    And "I sell advice but for myself I have none," is not accepted. Your version is cleaner, but they are both correct and mean the same thing.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scofire6060

    "Pero" la palabra no es necesario


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    que quieres decir hombre (si eres todavia viviendo despues quatro anos)?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mal7798

    It could mean "I sell advice (to others) but I have none for myself (because I don't follow my own advice."


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/V_E_S

    Honestly "I sell advice but have none for myself" sounds a lot better than "Do as I say, not as I do"


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    I agree. But actually someone in another discussion gave a quote by Oscar Wilde that is now my favorite thing on the topic. It's not as short and pithy as these, but it irony strikes just the right chord for me.

    like I always pass on good advice. It is the only thing to do with it. It is never of any use to oneself. Oscar Wilde, An Ideal Husband


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ColdenSapi

    Didn't let me have this! I think that people should slow down and take the literal translation-- it gives 'muy más consejo' about Spanish culture. For example, another proverb is translated as "silence is golden", but literally says "close your mouth and no flies will get in"... which presents a witty Spanish charm.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/John_Payne

    is ' consejos' advice?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    Yes. Consejos is the noun advice. The verb to advise is aconsejar and is a regular AR verb.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lynne650325

    Thank you for this translation. I was going to write this, but chickened out and looked at their translation. I think of how much easier it is to advise others than to figure out what you need to do for your own problem. I don't know if we have an idiom for this, in English. I like your translation very much, and think that "Do a I say and not as I do" is a poor translation.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NixolB20

    almost to 1000 LIKES!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/andrew108153

    I think that idom is more common when it is said "practice what you preach".


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    But that's essentially an accusation, while this (both the English and Spanish) is more of a confession or admission about one's own hypocrisy. They obviously would be said at different times.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    I don't there are two different sayings


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/stardust_duo

    This is such a funny translation compared to the english idiom. I like this one better lol


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Wandler

    That helps. Thank you.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Torin919319

    no offense to anyone, but why did this get so many lingots?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    Me parece que el orador carece de motivación


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BizarroIan

    Wow and do as i say not as i do was also correct


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MorgMar

    Exactly what i said with no idea of the idioms meaning in Spanish


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/UzbekSultana

    Тоже самое что «сапожник без сапог» or something of "doctors don't cure themselves" ?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/angelomiloch

    Em português, seria algo como: "Faça o que eu digo, não faça o que eu faço." In portuguese, this idiom meen something like: "Do what i say, not what i do."


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/calicagey

    Another English expression that is similar: Take my advice; I never use it.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Joseph2

    I expected this to be something more along the lines of "always a bridesmaid and never a bride" but wasn't sure. Translated it literally and it worked.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ishikamen

    In Pt-br we would say "Faça o que digo, mas não faça o que faço", pretty different than in Spanish and more like English


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/1999m

    Im not sure if I got it right but in hebrew theres a pharse that say "the cobler walk bare foot" but I think its saying that the cobler is too busy at work that he cant make himself his own shoes


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/germano_germino

    I see in Hebrew/German idiom-similarities how interlinked Jewish and German culture was before WWII - a relic being Jiddish.

    Same proverb in Germany: "Der Schuster hat die schiefsten Hacken" (The cobbler wears the most sloping heels). Yet there is another spirit in this sentence, implying that one who works for others often neglects to care about himself.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    Well said, although it resemble a little that saying you put it right and therefore different.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/spanishchuck639

    i am taking flying lessons. The guy i flew with today is an old veteran with 1,000's of hours. He knows (knew) I had only 10 hours under my belt. He said very difinitively, do as I say, not as I do. He knew that his actions would scramble my head. Very wise words in this case. He DID many things that violated standard practice, but his words were spot on. (real world example)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    I can understand this. Very competent people may have unconventional ways to reach their goals. And they often are or may not be applicable for universal teaching. So such people would advise not to copy them but listen to them.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ggcathey

    A closer English expression might be something like "I don't practice what I preach."


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    I would say "I can't practice what I preach" (for whatever reason it may be)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ChristinaA129144

    Tipically what my mother would say


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ChinchetaDeAmor

    More like, "practise what you preach"


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thisistrine

    I wrote "I sell pieces of advice and for me I do not have any" - is this not correct English in this context as well? (I guess not as it was not accepted)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/spinnity

    I think the addition of "pieces of" drifts away from the original sentence where the uncountable noun "consejos" was used. "I sell advice..." is closer. The second part has most of the right words, but I would flip it like this: "do not have any for myself". In this case, I think you need to use "for myself" rather than "for me" because the idea of "myself" is emphasized in the sentence. See: http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/blog/english-mistakes/me-vs-myself/


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Petalpool

    Wish this one showed the whole definition in English when you click on it instead of cutting off. Would have loved to leaen a new phrase without the loss of a heart xD


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    I wonder why people are so hard up with right or wrong when this is a free course ...I'll give you an advice ...Don't worry about it and keep learning...As for myself it drives me nut when they say it's wrong....Yes keep laughing


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lori39222

    This made me start singing the Alice in Wonderland song "i give myself very good advice, but I very seldom follow it "


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/yohablaunpoco

    scrolling over the words for individual meanings it looks like "piece of advice sell out and have a baby me do not have" and while that's entertaining it doesn't make sense


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    ...Where does the baby comes from???


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/akoakini

    "Consejos vendo y para mí no tengo." means that how people are good at giving people advice and how they can comment but when it comes to them, they dont even know what to do. they are good at selling their advice suggestions and comments but dont take their own advice when theyre at the same situation because normally people in certain situations cant think clearly that they would ask another peoples opinion or ask other people to validate. at least that is what a website that i have stumbled upon had given meaning to it posted on their site along with other idiomatic expression and proverbs and wise words. and the english translation that duo gave does have a different meaning of its own.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OMichaelMageo

    Sounds like an excuse for hypocracy


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    not necessarily, it may be one's frame of mind


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    It is a clear admission of hypocrasy on some level for both the English and Spanish idiom


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ziliya

    The Hebrew equivalent is: הסנדלר הולך יחף ("The shoemaker walks barefoot")


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hwylam

    Does anyone know which lesson this comes from? I don't seem to be able to navigate back to it. Is there a general way so to do?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    i came across where I am now and it's pretty much close to the beginning under Idioms


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/nogaleast

    Can anyone explain what this literally means?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nekosuki

    Advice I sell and for myself have none.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/clawedinvader

    I was at a loss as to what it could mean, so I tried my best to translate it into English and I entered "I sell advice and I have none for myself", and it was accepted :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    Correct it's an old Japanese saying hahaha!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    'guess you got it by now!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Krealic

    The anthem of a hypocrite. ;)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    whooooo! you shall not judge (I do!)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DaBuzzScout

    words of a hypocrite.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CScubing

    What a hypocrite.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    you would not have time for this with all these linguo you're learning!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/theRealRabbit

    A direct translation would be more helpful than an idiom.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    you really need both


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wkepperling

    Well maybe if you were a better role model


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Manolis_Pol

    In Greek we have the expression "Δάσκαλε που δίδασκες και νόμο δεν εκράτεις" which literally translates to "Teacher who taught and did not keep the law" or a better translation "Teacher, you do not follow what you teach."


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gypsyvee

    Take my advice, I'm not using it


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    ...At least it's not wasted!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/2ndpattern

    "I always pass on good advice. It is the only thing to do with it. It is never of any use to oneself." -- Oscar Wilde


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/chicapug

    This is a bit confusing.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    I have always thought that Duo presents these two early. They make it seem like a reward, but idioms in particular are generally somewhat strange in their construction and very metaphoric. And translating one metaphor with another is often not a great match. Don't worry too much about this yet.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MyaCronk

    It ain't what you do its the way that you do it!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    hmm you miss the point I think


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Fillipe_Mendes

    Here in Brazil we have a similar one too: "Faça o que eu digo, não faça o que eu faço!"


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    That's the English one pretty exactly. But I actually would interpret the Spanish one actually more like people saying ruefully I should take my own advice. That hasn't risen to the level of idiom/proverb, yet. But this expression doesn't seem to be really directed towards anyone else's actions.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Michael890274

    Lead by example - Actions speak louder than words


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    lead or live? But it is somehow related


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wintaerbearr2151

    Getting strong Hwarang vibes from this


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Languager28

    Duo is trying to become our parent


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Arup73

    I actually don’t know the meaning. But hitting translation without any knowledge!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/byunatb

    We use this as well in turkish


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TeresaGree179077

    Are we misding a do here?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    These idioms or proverbs aren't translated in any sort of literal way. Duo just chooses one with a similar message in English. There actually are no "do"s. The literal translation of the Spanish is "I sell advice but have none for myself"


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mehde12

    Practice what you preach!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mehde12

    Practice what I preach!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mary238172

    It would be nice to be able to print these idioms for practice.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EnriqueDan18

    This is the most interesting and entertaining comment board ive seen lately , tha k you all


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PranavShr4

    The two don't really correlate


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/conorris

    advice I sell and for me I don't have. These make no sense. If lingots weren't useless, I'd be upset about spending them for this "lesson"


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    If I were to translate this more directly I would translate it as I sell advice and (but is better) have none for myself. But you will notice that neither of these are the translation shown. Duo translates these idioms/proverbs using an appropriate one in English. Some of the ones chosen are more appropriate than others. This one is decent to my mind. Do as I say, not as I do. Obviously that would translate into a much different sentence. But the familiar ring to these things and the fact they tend to be almost recited at certain times, makes providing a similar English expression appropriate. Personally I think they should offer this section later in the course and provide both a more literal translation and a similar expression in English. As for charging lingots, Duo has to have a couple of ways to spend them, so you have owl outfits, bonus sections, and streak saves. That's all part of the game aspect of Duo.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    My bad perhaps, I never worry about lingots, etc. just fly through the lessons and try to remember not to be upset about not getting approvals. After all we have to realise/ remember this is a free course and there is plenty to learn for that free price without being blocked by negative marking. But perhaps I missing something with the lingots, it may give me extra topics I don't know of. I still enjoy it when I do the exercises. Having said this I recognise it's not the same for everyone some take everything seriously and want the same done for them. Accuracy has never been my strong point and for me I can carry on in spanish with my 100 or so words lot and surprise native speakers until they rattle way out of my 100 words ! and come Manuel de Barcelona all I can say is ?que? actualemente pensio que puedo hacer mas que esto. Ahora estoy aprendido la cancione de Julio Iglesias "me olvide de vivir" que descubrie es una cancione de mi amigo Johny Halliday (muerto posiblamente 5 anos pasados. Pero ambos la cantaban juntos y en ambos idioma!) y una estrella de mi veinte anos quando me vive en Francia. Y las palabras y phrases estan un poco difficile de seguir.... Well that's my go!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LinnaHaugen

    The translation is so wrong. The meaning might be the "same" but to people new in the language, it's just confusing and a little pointless


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BarbaraMorris

    That's how translation works. The point of translation is to convey the same meaning, not necessarily to have a word-for-word translation. By their nature, idioms convey more information than just their words, and if you translate an idiom word for word, it often has almost no meaning in the other language.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Michael_Lanfield

    I'm sorry if somebody already asked this, but why is there an "y" and, in the middle?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    The literal translation here is I sell advice and have none for me (or myself). Y is the Spanish word for and, which is the conjunction here.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/puffinwoman

    I wrote exactly that but it was wrong


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hwylam

    Please can anyone tell me which section this phrase was in - I don't seem to be able to navigate back to it. Is there a general way to find parts of lessons?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    Well normally I would say no. There are many more exercises for each unit than anyone completes in any session, and many exercises have a couple of things they are drilling, so they can be used in a couple of units. I have been up and down the tree for six years now, but I have gone months between encountering some exercises, although Duo may have some system. But this sentence is an idiom, and is first found in the idiom bonus unit, although you'll find it used elsewhere. There aren't a lot of idioms taught, so you should be able to get to this one in a couple of sessions, if not on your first one. But both the actual exercises included in a unit and their order is different for everyone. That's why when you find a comment comparing one exercise to the previous one, it may not make sense because you probably had a different previous exercise.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hwylam

    Muchas gracias, muy util


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KJM20122

    good spanish can you try to get on the leaterbord today to help me with getting me in thered place please thank you


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KJM20122

    try i bet there is a why to do that


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KJM20122

    i no this is a little funy but im 7 well ill be elhnt on novenber 10


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LenaRayol

    This Spanish translation is: haz lo que digo, no lo que hago


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    This actually goes for all the proverbs. we get the equivalent in English and also can check the spanish words hoovering over them...This is only partly helpful as an explanation of these word leading to the saying would be very welcome... Here I can only work out "Advice sold to mi i don't have" ...not very meaningful, don't you think? I did not look below and should have as I like Ellieban translation, but 1) I don't think it should be call literal, rather interpreted. 2) I'd modify it with "I sell advice, but don't follow them" slight nuance but better imho :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    The most literal you can get is Advice I sell and for myself have none. While it's not true of all idioms, this one is actually interpretable with rather basic Spanish skills.

    Consejos vendo - Advice I sell

    Y para me - and for me (or myself)

    No tengo I don't have any or I have none

    You just have to be cognizant of the various syntax issues.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nbradley38

    To make it simple, generally (in my experience) when someone says this idiom, they mean they are about to break the rules. Or otherwise act in an unruly manner.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/madazahata

    I have only ever used 'do as I say and not as I do' with the my children and also only had it said to me as a child. Generally when a child is saying 'why can't I do that too?' as in stay up late, or something that they aren't old enough to do yet. So I've never really thought of it as a hypocritical or particularly negative comment, more along the lines of 'learn to do it this way now and then when you're old enough make up your own mind' does anyone else agree with that?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    I certainly think that's part of it. I have also only heard this used with children, although that has never quite been my interpretation of the whole. I have often heard this for things that are bad for you like smoking which they, themselves, do. While they may rationalize your explanation, I never think they actually are thinking that their child should decide about that latter. Their child had just exposed a vice that they are ashamed of, and they don't want to deal with it. Of course, the other reason that no one says it to adults is that there aren't too many adult relationships that involve simple obedience, and if they tried it they definitely would be called hypocrites. Young kids don't even know the word, older ones probably know better than to say it to any parent.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SNIPASAEF

    My titi used to say this to me


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/osmir.ua

    Дослівно: Продав пораду, і для себе її не лишив.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    Absolutely .... Da Nasdrave!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/adymnaynur

    Like in Turkish “Dediğimi yap yaptığımı yapma”


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miles395879

    I don't understand Spanish idioms at all- The fact that the actual words in the sentence are different than what the idiom translates to is extremely confusing and throws me off so much-


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    You have basically just defined the word idiom. From Dictionary.com

    an expression whose meaning is not predictable from the usual meanings of its constituent elements, as kick the bucket or hang one's head, or from the general grammatical rules of a language, as the table round for the round table, and that is not a constituent of a larger expression of like characteristics.

    Most of what Duo teaches as idioms might actually be better classified as proverbs or different types of artistic metaphors. This is just a type of ironic metaphor. Literally it translates as I sell advice, but have none for myself. It's not actually suggesting that the advice is sold. It's just suggesting that though I am always telling people what they should do, I don't do what I tell them they should do. That's why Do as I say not as I do is considered a "translation", since that's a common way we say the same thing in English. But I do think that these metaphors could be translated directly and probably understood, as long as everyone understands that it's not necessarily grammatical or sensible in either language unless you understand it as a set expression with a cultural meaning, and not assume that it's supposed to sound natural in either language otherwise. But an idiom as defined above will probably need a non literal translation unless it already exists in the other language. Unfortunately there's no real way to guess which are shared and which aren't, at least that I know of. When I am having a Spanish conversation I am always wondering whether some turn of phrase that I think of in English is translatable or not.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Samuel917798

    para todos no usen estas oraciones en español ya que no tienen sentido o no se usan


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ph.WYYGEt

    It is a saying that reproaches those who give advice to others, but do not take it for themselves or do not know how to solve their own problems.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kulAditi

    Who else remember penny saying this in big bang theory??


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sheero26

    Why can't we say like- Vendo Consejos??


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    This is an idiomatic set expression in Spanish. It's like do as I say not as I do in that it's always said the same way. It just means that although you give good advice, you don't follow your own advice yourself. If you say Vendo consejos (which wouldn't be capitalized), you would no longer be saying this time honored expression and people would assume that you actually were saying that you sold advice.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sheero26

    Thank you so much!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/thi-fcr

    Well, literally from English to Spanish, would be "Haz lo qué digo, no lo que


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/parkviewjustin

    If you're giving out errors on punctuation, then do it on all of them. Not just some of them. That inconsistency is not cool! Boo!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    Duo never marks based on punctuation. They explicitly filter it out, which is why the tiles exercises can not even include any. I never include any even when I write out the answer in six years. Perhaps you missed a different error or a synonym wasn't accepted.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sebastianb118440

    i would like that they at least show you the literal translation so that i actually learn what the words mean istead of what they represent in english


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    I agree, and that was always a weakness of the idioms unit. I think Duo realized that, since I haven't had to refresh those units in over a year, but a few of these are still out there. Just in case you don't know the literal translation here, it would be "I sell advice and have none for myself", although even that is straying slightly from the literal to make a good English sentence. I wanted to change the and to but, but I did keep that literal.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HomesickTourist

    As per merriam webster this should have been translated as "Tips for sale and for me I don't have."


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/THeNeeno

    That is one possible word for word substitution instead of translating into the language properly. You could go with, “I sell you tips (as in pointers or advice) but I have none for myself" or something along those lines. I wouldn't expect Duolingo to have every possible answer though, especially when “tips" can be ambiguous.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EstherGeil

    To me (a non-Spanish speaker), it sounds like it is saying (meaning) "I give good advice, but I don't follow it". That would be a self-deprecating sentence by the speaker, sort of bemoaning that they don't do a better job of following their own best knowledge. Would a native Spanish speaker who also speaks English well please tell me whether that is the real sense of the idiom? It is a little different from "Do as I say, not as I do", which is either a statement from someone in authority giving a command/suggestion to someone they have influence over or that humorous but sorrowful acknowledgment that they know better but aren't managing to follow their own best knowledge.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GrueneHexe

    Why is "I sell advices and i don't have any for myself" wrong, if the vocabulary says that consejos means "advices" or "piece of advice"?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tu.8zPhLD72zzoZN

    In English, advice is like water, which is not countable.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MichaelTru510080

    You are an impressive DL addict!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LindaHill

    "Consejos, is considered an "indefinite number" (the English definition) and thus is "uncountable" (the Spanish definition). Other English words that are "uncountable" or "indefinite in number" are: some, few, many, little, often, less, much, frequently, etc. These English words can refer to time, space, and anything that is changeable or changing. Gracias to allintolearning, without whom I would not have understood what "uncountable" meant.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Miguel280968

    I think Dracula is uncountable....definitely he's too blood thirsty to deserve his count tittle .... Ingles me gusta mucho.... Es possible que necesito consejos tanbien? Pero necesito un otro 'something' de interogacion y con las piernas por encima y la cabeza abajo (un dia me voy a conocer el espanol perfectamente...y este dia me voy a le disfrutar mucho!) Si, como pueden ver le el espanol me gusta mucho tambien...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kejotik

    "Advice I sell and for myself have none" - why would this not be accepted as correct?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/spinnity

    Sounds weird without another "I", and the "Advice I sell" word order sounds very ancient or poetic. "I sell advice and for myself I have none" would probably be better.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IndaImmega

    Well, it is not exactly the same, but thr sense is there: "You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother's eye."


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/THeNeeno

    I agree that they are closely related. But one is a judgement of the hypocrite by an outsider and the other is a lighthearted or bewildered self examination by the hypocrite.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Josefina314

    What about, "physician, heal thyself." Isn't that the same meaning, the same intent?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/THeNeeno

    Only if the “physician" says it to his/herself.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/danainai

    alice in wonderland anyone?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/reinae2

    I put 'I never take my own advice.' No go. But I think it's said often enough to be an idiom. Especially after someone gives good advice. [insert idiom] I always say - but I never take my own advice.

    Although I do admit there's more implied.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/khalil3x6

    I answered:"I sell advice but I don't buy it." I think my answer makes more sense that the accepted 'correct solutions'!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tessbee

    "Easier said than done"? Lol


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Aaron85641

    I tried "advice i sell and for myself I have none" which was counted wrong because I translated the "y" into "and" instead of into nothing. With everything else that is being counted that burns


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/vophuonglinh

    This sentence seems like an activity that a language teacher says: Let's play a game, do as I say, not as I do. I often let my students play this game, so much fun <3


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SofiaTheGreat44

    Why not "monkey see, monkey do?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ah56

    "Mi no tengo" is short of saying "mi no tengo ningun". So when I see or hear "mi no tengo" I should assume the word "ningun" follows.??


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/akoakini

    "y para mi no tengo" let us cut this into two parts, "y para mi" and "no tengo" basically you cut it in a wrong way, "mi" is part of "y para mi" which means, and for me, which indicates a persons opinion or something that relates to him, then the second part which is as simple as saying 'i do not have' (no tengo) no need to put the "any" word in "i do not have any" (ningun) because its clear in the first part. of the whole idiom


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Alexandros534864

    I did the literal "Advice i sell and for myself i have none", and it failed me only because i put "and" but it wanted a comma. Please fix this. I was more accurate for the literal wording.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wiseachoo

    Hovering over "para" shows a definition of "have" as opposed to something I would have expected such as "for".


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lmschon

    The word not wasn't offered for me to put in the sentence


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    I have seen that once before on one of the assemble the words exercises. You need to report it if you see it again using the flag.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SarahLeopo1

    "Consejo vendo y para mí no tengo" literally means "Advice I sell, and for me not to have." However, there is a direct translation from English that says exactly "do as I say, not as I do" and that is "haz lo que te digo no lo que yo hago." Which when reverse translated means exactly "do as I say not as I do." Why is this not accepted as the answer? Seeing as Duolingo isn't providing a good enough explanation of this, I was wondering if someone could explain why the exact direct translation is not used? I am having a tough time understanding where they derive these idioms from.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/keyboardo

    Lo que haces determina si tú mereces mi sumisión.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    Hay un problema grande con el español en tu pregunta. Aparentemente has editado tu comentario, porque esto que veo aquí no es lo mismo como lo que estaba en el comentario enviado por correo electrónico que conseguí. Creo que tu pregunta es así: Qué determina sí mi sumisión es aceptable. What determines if my submission is acceptable. If that is indeed your question, the answer is it is essentially a database which contains acceptable translations based on the contextual meaning of the words and correct grammar and syntax in the target language. It is a delicate process, and I don't think that Duo claims that it encompasses all possible correct translations. It works best when they limit possible answers based on translation conventions. The most common expressions are translated into their equivalents in the target language. This means that a sentence like Me gustan los niños is translated as I like children or I like the children not The children are pleasing to me which is a translation which is sometimes used to help the Spanish learner understand how the grammar works in the Spanish sentence. But we would never say that in English that way. But the other random sentences without standard meanings should be translated as closely as possible based on correct grammar, semantics and syntax. Some words, especially true cognates, will always be translated the same way. This is just to make their job manageable. There are already many words which have multiple meanings both based on the context and the common English usage. Duo must almost always accept both big and large for grande as they are both quite common in English, for example. But sometimes esperar means to wait and sometimes to hope, but it is seldom actually ambiguous, so only one of those definitions will be allowed based on the context for the most part. So anytime there is a translation for a Spanish word where one English word would always work and is somehow the obvious choice (as in cognates) then Duo does not always allow other translations. Duo is teaching Spanish here, so of they can teach you one proper way to translate into English, they know that a native English speaker will understand that there are other ways to express the same thing. But your translation must always show that you recognize the grammatical structure as well as the meaning.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/keyboardo

    Thank you for your elaborate explanation! I perfectly understand that syntax and grammatical structure are as critical to Spanish as the literal translations of the words themselves. However, you seem to have misunderstood the meaning of my statement. The intended expression was, "What you do determines whether you deserve my submission". For context, this is a derisive response to the sentence in the problem. Since your suggested translation differs completely from mine, it seems that there is still an issue with my syntax. Please propose any alterations I might make to my comment in order to adjust my grammar and sentence structure.

    I do not believe this is a word choice problem, since the terms "determina" and "sumisión" have very specific translations, and "mereces" primarily means "to deserve" or "to merit", which complies with the meaning of my statement. Please tell me if you are aware of any culturally preferred or less ambiguous words I could use.

    The comment that showed up in your email was grammatically incorrect: "Que haces determina si mereces mi sumisión". Shortly after submitting this remark, I decided that the verb should in this case precede the subject clause: "Determina que haces". This may have been a faulty choice and is most likely why you interpreted my statement as interrogative rather than declarative.

    Furthermore, I might have blundered in my choice of the word, "determina". Perhaps the correct conjugation of this verb would be "determinar". Could this have been the setback in my above statement? Or is it my use of "a mí" rather than simply "mí"?

    Consequently, I suspect that the correct expression may either be, "Que haces determinar si mereces a mí sumisión" or "Determinar que haces si mereces a mí sumisión". Let me know what you think, and again, thanks for your input!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    OK. I see the problem grammatically, although I am still not quite sure I understand the significance of you message in this discussion. The key to the correct translation is to understand that in your English sentence the "what" could also be phrased "that which", or "the thing that" although you would not see that often on English. But that sort of construction is required in Spanish and it takes a while for English speakers to understand it. I think the best phrasing for your comment is, "Lo que haces determina si mereces mi sumisión. The a is definitely not required or correct as mi sumisión is the direct object of the verb merecerías and not a person so it doesn't use the personal a. It is also possible that the use of merecerse would be better. I have not been able to determine what factors affect the use of the reflexive or pronominal verb. It doesn't seem to make any difference in meaning, but this might be a subtle one. It took me years to get an explanation as to the use or morirse versus morir, especially since I could not even posit a possible meaning of the reflexive pronoun on that case.

    Here is a link discussing lo que

    http://www.spanishdict.com/answers/141425/when-to-use-lo-que

    But as I say I am still not clear as to exactly what you were saying in terms of the discussion of this idiom. Is the you Duo? And if so, what would they do or change to merit your submission?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/keyboardo

    After briefly reading the discussion on the webpage you presented, I now agree that "lo que" is a far better choice of wording than simply "que", provided that its meaning runs along the lines of "that which" or "the thing that" rather than a vague "what". Also, your reasoning for the omission of "a" helped clear some confusion I had as to when I should use this preposition. Thank you!

    I am curious as to why the reflexive verb "merecerse" would be necessary. I could perhaps reword this sentence to make the subordinate clause more specific: "Lo que haces determina si tú mereces mí sumisión". Nonetheless, in both this sentence and the original, the direct object "sumisión" is not a reflexive pronoun. Can you further explain the purpose of using a reflexive or pronominal verb in this sentence?

    My message was not supposed to have any significance to the discussion on this page. It was merely a facetious response to the sentence in the problem, and was not intended as a retort against Duolingo. The word "submission" refers to an adjustment of action in compliance with an authority. I was basically saying, "I will not obey what you (the authority) say if your actions do not reflect your words".


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    Yes, especially if the English word what is the Subject of a sentence or a clause lo que is essentially required, although it is also used in parenthetical phrases and such. It is a neuter relative pronoun.

    I can't really answer the question as to why the reflexive form merecerse might be required. I have seen it used, but it never seemed to impact the actual meaning. That is why I related it to morirse. There are some reflexive verbs that have very understandable uses, some which subtly alter the meaning of the verb like ir and irse for example, and others that seem difficult to find an explanation for at all. Morirse was definitely my lead candidate for crazy reflexive verbs. I could not imagine what the difference between Él murió and Él se murió could possibly be, but I had seen a lot of each. Finally a native speaker told me that the reflexive form indicated a sudden or recent death. I am assuming that this type of abstract, perhaps emotional impact may be similar to the difference here. Those are the type of differences that it is hard to figure out as a language learner, and may be difficult to express or understand even as a native speaker without a lot of thought.

    I did see a sort of parallel between Duo's sentence and yours, but I wasn't sure. Part of the reason I was wondering was that I had been half tempted to put merecer in the conditional. That would also work, but would be more tentative. I was just trying to determine whether there was something about what you were trying to say particularly warranted the conditional, but I think present indicative probably works best.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/keyboardo

    Lynettemcw, thank you again for this conversation. I have edited my sentence according to your suggestions and have learned a good deal more about Spanish sentence structure. I agree that the present indicative is the best (and easiest) choice for this expression, as I am most familiar with that tense. ¡Gracias por su tiempo!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NathanMond6

    Well did you read the whole thing?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JediLennel

    I love this saying. Who wouldn't?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/courtney.k1

    the confusion for English speakers and literal translation seems in the use of the verb tener = to have...it seams in Spanish this verb also acts as the English verb to be and its meaning that to be is a state of being


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    The only case where tener is a state of being is with nouns like hambre or sed. And this is also. true in French, German and probably several others. In most other ways, tener is pretty consistent with to have, except of course it isn't the auxiliary verb for the perfect tenses.

    As for this non direct translation, it is just Duo translating one idiom with another.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ChrisLee487859

    So, "do as I say, not as I do", in English is more of an admonition to a child from a frustrated parent. The Spanish literal translation seems more like an admission to an adult, pointing out ones own character flaw, that " I have advise for sale to others but none to have for myself," which I would never say to a child, and I doubt that Spanish speakers would either....or am I wrong?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    I think the fact that Do as I say, not as I do is now something that tends to be said to a child is a modern change. I think it was originally an ironic statement said to an adult. I agree that in modern use it is mostly that, but even when I was a child I would hear it both ways. To be honest, what adult would invent a saying to teach their child they were a hypocrite. It has just evolved so. The message that is in the literal statement here is actually one that I would be more comfortable saying to my child. My child knows that I advise other people. I am not sure of the implication of "selling advice", we certainly only talk about giving or giving out advice. But to tell a child you are good at giving advice, but not as good at following the same advice is perhaps exposing a flaw, but it is an honest, human flaw. Being a hypocrite is, however, something I would hope my child never was. Saying Do as I say... is not the same as saying I am the adult, you are the child. You are not saying the rules are different for you, your just saying they have to follow them whether or not you do.

    But I would say that yes, this is probably meant mostly for adults. I am just saying that thinking that Do as I say is something appropriate to say to a child says something not very good about us.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lee442570

    Somehow i got it exactly backwards


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IndrajeetM219

    Advice is for sale not for me to have.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    That's both passive voice and not quite accurate. The most natural English direct translation here would be I sell advice, but (I) have none for myself.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Juan_Ricardo

    The word "not" is missing from the choices.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    This should be reported using the flag


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/susannafulcher

    Uh no, it should be reported using the check mark


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AmitGalor

    We have an idiom with similar meaning in Hebrew: The shoemaker walks barefoot. I think it matches the Spanish one's meaning better than the English "do as I say, not as I do"


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BarbaraMorris

    I think the shoemaker idiom is more about people not doing something in their personal lives that they do in their working lives. Giving advice but not taking it oneself seems somewhat different to me.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/nuclearves

    This one is a real challenge. My girlfriend is a native speaker from Colombia and she says it does not mean "Do as I say, not as I do. She says it means that the person is willing to help other people with advice, but when she herself needs help, no one is there for her.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    You certainly are correct that this is not really a good fit with the English. But I disagree somewhat with your girlfriend. This expression says the person SELLS advice, but has none for himself. That's more ironic than pathetic.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/nuclearves

    Thanks for the feedback. I was having some doubts about her take on that expression. She does not speak English but it should not matter. I still don't really understand the expression fully or how to translate it. Something like "Hey so I don't practice what I preach,, so what," said ironically to a co-conspirator.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Viktorplus

    For me it's closer to: "The cobbler's children have no shoes".


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DenaBaldwin

    I keep wishing Duo would accept 'Take my advice, I'm not using it.'


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    Duo doesn't seem to change the idioms which they use as the translation at all. In the German course, They have Eine Hand wäscht die anderen, which literally translates into One hand washes the other, translated as I'll scratch your back if you'll scratch mine. In your case I think the idiom is certainly fresher and more interesting, it is not necessarily more apropos.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thea.Rodriguez

    Don't follow my tips or advice!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    Is that a translation or ironic advice.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thea.Rodriguez

    Both! yes it is a translation the trick with idioms is not to be to literal... as many proverbs use analogies and metaphors hence specific translation is trickier with idioms... if that makes sense.

    Try translating my words and duolingos phrase in google translate, it will provide extra insight... I suppose the correct meaning matters less than an accurate translation that may not make sense in some cases.

    Colloquialisms can be slang or just sound daft in another language, and people search for an apt meaning to reflect the analogy or metaphor fairly...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thea.Rodriguez

    I sell advice but I do not have any for myself...
    (I am more confused than you I think Lynette!).


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/b-reasonable

    In the English translation of the word consejos they have advice, council . . . I think they probably mean counsel unless this can also mean a group of people meeting on a given subject (whereas, counsel is a synonym for advice)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    Absolutely. You can try reporting it, but I doubt hints get any priority. Hints take a lot of expertise to decipher at best.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ColbeyBeni

    My natural inclination is to say "vendo consejos." Why would this be incorrect?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    Because this is an idiom Idioms occasionally do diverge into different forms, but for the most they are repeated the same way for generations I am sure I have never uttered the phrase A watched pot except as part of the idiom A watched pot never boils Idioms are simply ritualistic expressions of something that is considered some sort of cultural truth, although that does make it sound more profound than most idioms actually are


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JamesCurti957514

    Tons of people need to retake English Idioms lmao.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    Idioms like this are not generally learned in any course you "take", they are learned from your family, friends, subculture or other factors in your environment. So there are slight or greater variations in both individual idioms and what idioms people are familiar with. That's just the nature of this type of cultural truism.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KazzLewsader

    How do you know that "mi" means "myself" and not "me?"


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    Well that's sort of a difficult question to untangle. Basically it is a function of the English more than the Spanish. There are basically two forms of the Spanish word mi. The first we can take out of consideration here. It is the possessive adjective mi as in mi casa or mi coche etc. The other is the object of a preposition, except for con which changes to contigo. Basically if that mi points back at the subject I, it may be translated as myself, although me is generally not considered wrong. Consider the following sentences.

    Él lo compró para mi

    Yo lo compré para mi

    Since the subject of the first sentence is He, it is clear that mi means me. He bought it for me. (I was the recipient).

    In the second sentence the mi agrees with the person of the subject, somyself is probably the more elegant translation, but I don't think me is wrong. I bought it for myself/ I bought it for me.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jed637198

    if you wanted to direct this comment at how someone else behaves, could you say "consejos vendes y para ti no tienes", as in something along the lines of "you sell advice but have none for yourself", would that be correct?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    The problem with that is that these says and idioms are generally repeated as is, instead of changing them around to fit the proper person. By changing it, you lose the concept of tried and true cultural wisdom that these sayings impart and the person may be confused wondering about the content of the saying.. But you did turn the grammar around correctly. It is possible that people would do that with this expression, but that is not a given. Normally they are just repeated by rote at the appropriate time and the person understands that you are actually addressing it to them. But I certainly cannot definitively say.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jed637198

    That is a good point, I did think that when i asked because as you said generally idioms and such arent altered and are just said as is. Thanks


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PetersenTur

    what if they're deaf


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    Well, critiquing an idiom that is probably more than 100 years old is somewhat pointless. And actually the Spanish idiom avoids that trap by saying simply that they sell advice, which does not necessarily mean oral advice. But the basic meaning is the same. You are better at prescribing what should be done then actually doing it in your own life.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Antonio479324

    I would prefer a more literal translation. It may not make complete sense in english if it is translated word for word, but this is a great opportunity for people to understand the richness of the other language. Consejos para ustedes


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AliAshtiani

    I think it means : I give advice to others but I do not follow them myself


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/icecoldjelly

    "Do as I say but not as I do" was counted wrong :(


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jeff838

    how does anyone get these right on the first try?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/John_Payne

    localruffian: That makes sense to me. Muchas Gracias.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Agnes929824

    I think it means 'I give good advice (since it sells), but I am bad at sorting my own problems.' No hipocricy here I believe. A few people also mentioned 'The cobblers children are always barefoot' in various forms, we have something very similar in Slovene language, only it's the blacksmiths mare :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sidney369633

    Definently my excuse!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/psieger

    'Counsel I sell, but for me I have none' is an existing correct translation. Would fit any politician, come to think of it...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Areej546651

    Wwwwattte. What is the best way to get in the. it. Dasen. Make. Sens


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    This is an idiom or a proverb or whatever you call those pithy cultural expressions that one trots out by rote at the appropriate expression. Duo translates one languages idioms into a close one of the other language, although it is often somewhat problematic. The direct translation here is I sell advice but have none for myself. Both sayings essentially say that the person talks a good game about what should be done, but doesn't follow their own advice.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jaime586348

    No entiendo esta frase


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pedro367468

    Haz lo que yo digo y no lo que yo hago U sucks duo!!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pedro367468

    Haz lo que yo digo y no lo que yo hago U sucks duo!!!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CindySue10

    Lol ok this saying is bs oh no if a person says something they should do it


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CindySue10

    Lol booo!!! I have always hated this expression a parental figure should always lead by example


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NoiGS2015

    I'm cheating this shit and this shit doesn't know how to cheat neither


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ultimatemanjr.

    Kind of true, because you don't want to the wrong thing because you see someone do it. Be a leader.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kramdnus

    excuse me! i translated this as " do not do as i say - do as i do." how is that wrong?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ehsan_Mehmed

    You said the different meaning


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/nuclearves

    That is pretty good, even though it is not the English expression exactly.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/martind611973

    Do not as i do say i


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    Perfect syntax for the 17th century or so, although there may be regions where it wouldn't be that uncommon.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Michael890274

    Actions speak louder than words


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Bethany_Madison

    Ive said this saying before


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Carlachies1

    Can I have a Translation in italian please! I don't undestand!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    This Spanish sounds a little strange and too much like a proverb. To translate it to a more normal, conversational Italian it would be Vendo consigli e non ne ho nessuno per me stesso. Obviously selling advise is mostly metaphorical.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lindabernice209

    Why is my answer marked wrong when it's identical to yours?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Supergirl__2004

    Is this like from the bible or something?? Im not a christian so my parents wouldnt let me do anymore idioms if it is..


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lynettemcw

    None of the idioms in any of the languages I have seen on Duo are from the Bible. They don't have any real spiritual basis at all, they are just overused pieces of dimestore wisdom.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/susannafulcher

    Capitalize Bible and Christian


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lloyd76445

    Hello I'm the Doctor. (Just the Doctor.)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DanTheYoutuber

    Right now i'm thinking of the relativity to Dan Howell's Spanish teacher and my life.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/D.EstherNJ

    Says the Pharisee.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ricky269122

    This I have never heared before,but it was cool to learn the spanisah meaning


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/katy591616

    I had it right, but it was marked as wrong


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gudluckeveryone

    Yay! I finnaly got it right!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bookbeast

    Idioms would be better translated literally.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/chasevalentine
    <h1>YOLO42SWAGSPANISH</h1>

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Archie20499

    cexmyfbgcbjvbjv and I am 6sure on a good day today n dee's first one tho I think I will habe a good day today n dee's first one


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tathev0

    i like it hhaha


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jolylife

    "Видеть сучок в чужом глазу и не видеть бревна в своем"? Ведь не обязательно пословица о совете должна быть


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/susannafulcher

    Weird w-e-i-r-d weird

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