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"If I meet a French man, I will drink wine with him."
Translation:Eğer Fransız bir adamla tanışırsam, onunla şarap içeceğim.
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How is this habitual? The tips and notes say that the aorist conditional form has to do with habitual cases, but to say "If I (usually) meet a French man..." doesn't make much sense. Wouldn't "tanışsam" be more appropriate?
This section is incredibly bad at actually teaching us how all this stuff works. It's impossible to internalize rules when they seem to be different in every sentence. Why is tanışırsam required here instead of tanışsam, when in a very similar sentence about meeting a new neighbour tanışsam was used? In another comment someone said the aorist made the possibility seem unlikely, but as there's nothing in the English sentence indicating that meeting a French man is unlikely, what's the purpose of it here?
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Feel your pain. It is hard enough to digest what amounts to five "tenses" for verbs without having to beat one's brain learning three versions of "to meet" (that represent at least one too many). The future designers/moderators--pray they come soon!--would do better to have us start practicing this skill with verbs already studied, then toss in the new stuff in the latter three additional lessons this skill ought to have. :-P
This lesson is easily the most annoying. Many variations in word orders or translations for "to meet" aren't accepted. Super frustrating tbh
i am tearing my hair out
i used to use the future tense and it was marked wrong and i read in discussions that it is recommended to use the aorist in subjunctive sentences,
here is i used the aorist içerim and it was marked wrong and instead it used içeceğim
another question that is repeated but i get a clear answer when to use tanışmak and buluşmak
Why doesn't 'Eğer Fransız bir adamla tanışsam, onunla şarap içeceğim.' work? Tanışsam worked ın the sentence about meeting my new neighbor.
"Eğer" and "tanışsam" make a difficulty in a sentence, at least to me. I think you should omit "eğer" if you say "tanışsam". And "Fransız bir adamla tanışsam, onunla şarap içerim." sounds better to me, but "Fransız bir adamla tanışsam, onunla şarap içeceğim." doesn't have a problem too.
I used the Turkish future tense in another English example that had the same structure and it corrected me to aorist.
Now I used the Turkish aorist tense and it corrected me to the Turkish future tense.
Come on.
I feel like both in English and in Turkish a Frenchman (bir Fransız) sounds more normal than a French man (Fransız bir adam)
Can someone please explain to me the difference between Tanışsam and Tanışırsam
"Eğer Fransız bir adam ile tanışırsam, onunla şarab(ı) içeceğim". Just one accusative mistake and I get the NAH NAH. I was feeling quite pleased with myself lol! Still I guess a Turk would get the gist.
Yes, a Turkish person would understand it but your sentence would be If I meet a French man, i will drink THE wine with him"
Thanks SuperNerd, that'll do me :-) I'm not that interested in grammar, just communicating.
You're welcome :) But, If you don't keep the rules of grammar, People will say "What!? Which wine?" So, if you are not interested in grammar, just learn the words. Next, you can communicate without any grammar rules, can't you? Think about it, "eğer ben Fransız adam ile tanışmak, ben içmek şarap onunla" It's not a real communication :)
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when foreigners speak Arabic in front of Arabs we just auto correct, when a Chinese speaks English we just squeeze out the meaning, but i heard that Turkish people do not fill in the gaps, find it hard to believe, is it true?
The difference between the variations of "to meet";
Buluş- => To meet, means when you meet at a spot with (usually) someone you know (this someone can be a friend etc).
Tanış- => Means to meet someone that you hadn't known.
Görüş- => To meet someone for some reasons. For example we can use this to mean that two people have a romantic relationship "Onlar iki yıldır görüşüyorlarmış".
Yes, if it was not the sentence would be "Eger Fransiz adamla tanisirsam..." and its translation is "If I meet the French man."
What is the difference between tanışırsam and tanışsam??? Please help us out.... thx
According to the explanations in my Turkish Grammar book: tanışırsam (aorist) is used for likely events in conditions: if X actually happens (and it is possible, probable, but not guaranteed), then.... The main clause in the sentence can be aorist, or future, or a command, etc. (e.g. If Bob rings, tell him I'm out. If it's a rainy day, I always take an umbrella. If he invites me, I'll go.) Now tanışsam is the verb stem plus "if" and personal ending. It is used for hypothetical conditions: If X were to happen (but it is either impossible or unlikely) -- (e.g. If Einstein and Shakespeare were to meet.... If I were to win the lottery.... ) -- and the main clause is always aorist. I hope that helps. I am still drilling away at this.
"Eğer bir Fransız adamla tanışırsam" should be accepted as correct / doğru kabul edilmeli.
Aslında "Fransız bir adam" da hiç doğal sayılmaz. Sanırım "Bir Fransızla" ya da belki "Bir Fransız erkeğiyle" deriz böyle bir durumda.
"Eğer fransız bir adamla karşılaşırsam onunla şarap içeceğim" becauose of "karşılaşırsam" not accepted. "karşılaşmak" means "to meet" and "to encounter". in "If Conditional Subjunctive" lessons there is big problem to accepting various translations of "to meet" and this is a serious problem for learners.
In Turkish conditional - if - sentences are often introduced with the word -eğer - if or less commonly - şayet. Unless in Turkish these words are pointers alerting the listener that a Condition and Result are following.
Eğer - if ; tanaşırsam - if i meet Why are used both in the same sentence?
"Fransizca" - O fransizca biliyor - He speaks French.
"Fransiz" - O Fransiz bir adam - He is a French man.
"Fransa" - France (country)
With "Fransızca" you refer to a language.
