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Pronunciation of "handske" and "ingenjör"

Hello! Has anybody encountered the same difficulty with these? Can you help? Thanx!

  1. While the word "handske" is pronounced pretty much the way it is written when you learn it by itself, it is pronounced quite differently in the lesson: Adjectives, 3rd activity, first sentence. The "k" sound comes across as a kind of "kch" or something. Are there two possible ways of saying it?

"Min vänstra handske är smutsig."

  1. "En ingenjör" is another one I struggle with to remember as it is pronounced in two ways throughout the exercises. The "nj" is once pronounced as the first syllable in the word "gnocchi" the other one as the last consonant in the word "massage"
2 years ago

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  1. May vary between dialects, but can be pronounced either as /'hand.'ɧɛ/ or /'hand.'skɛ/.

  2. I believe it's totally correct to say it like /nʲ/, a regular /n/ sound with a slight /j/ afterwards, but not so long and strong.

Perhaps a native speaker/someone that knows this could correct me if I said anything wrong.

2 years ago

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  1. I'd say it's very rare to pronounce the d in handske, although it does happen.

  2. The suggestion of "massage" and "gnocchi" is quite good, actually, so I agree.

2 years ago

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Are there really people who pronounce with [-ɧɛ] and the end? I have never heard it in my whole life (native speaker). And as devalanteriel say, the [d] is very rarely pronounced.

I think its a bit misleading to characterize /nʲ/ as "n with a slight j" - /◌ʲ/ signifies a tongue root raised to the palate, not a sequence of phones, slight or otherwise. In Swedish, <nj> represents /nj/, and in Italian, <gn> generally represents /ɲ/. Of course, an English or Swedish speaker are likely to pronounce both /ɲ/ and /nʲ/ from another language as [nj].

2 years ago

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Thanx a lot!

2 years ago

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PS. I do not know how much you guys are associated with the Duolingo course. Let me say that you do some amazing work here and I really value your input.

2 years ago

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Cheers - appreciate it. :) Not affiliated with the course whatsoever.

2 years ago

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Seems pretty much correct, except for, as devalanteriel said, the d is almost always silent (actually, I don't know if it's ever pronounced in modern Swedish, as I don't think I've never heard it.)

As an aside to the OP, I wouldn't say vänstra but vänster in this case, but it might be a regional thing... fellow swedes, educate me!

2 years ago

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You probably mean min vänsterhandske, not min vänster handske. That's perfectly fine, too.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LegatonMik
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Maybe XD I'm actually a Swedish (and a native Swedish speaker), but by living abroad I've lost a fair bit of my Swedish. I'm still curious though, does vänstra sound natural unless you are describing something directly related to main (as it were) subject of the sentence? E.g., if my car had blown a left tire I would say Jag har punka i mitt vänsterhjul or Min bil har punka i sitt vänstra hjul.

2 years ago

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Yes, it definitely does. :)

2 years ago

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Huh, you live and learn, I guess XD

2 years ago