https://www.duolingo.com/miguelangel_43

I finished my German tree!! Here I leave some tips

After 8 months and a final 27 days’ streak, I've finally finished my German tree.

How do I feel?

I feel I can have conversations with natives and that I got to the point where I can understand and be able to follow easy TV series, Lost for example. Duolingo was extremely useful for grammar, structures, articles... since you are constantly translating, repeating and exercising everything.

Tips and resources

Michel Thomas But I didn't use just Duolingo to reach a conversational level. At the beginning I used the Michel Thomas Method, it consists of audios in which Michel Thomas, an expert in languages, teaches you all the grammar related stuff focusing in structures and verbal tenses, and he asks you to translate a bunch of sentences (just like Duolingo) so you start using the language when you just know a couple of words. I actually saw this method recommended by another Duolingo user who posted it (https://www.duolingo.com/comment/11047034). @heschmat

Verbling Community - https://www.verbling.com/community How are you going to be fluent in a language if you don't speak it? Here is the solution! Verbling is a website where you can pay native speakers to teach you the language, but if you are using Duolingo is probably because you like free stuff. So in this part of the website, you can join hangouts groups of people who are speaking your target language. The groups are usually formed of 3 or more people so it doesn't feel as awkward as speaking to only one stranger. If you don't see a German group, you can create one and wait 5 minutes until some people join.

Other tips: change your phone and/or computer OS language to your target language, try to speak the language in a daily basis (verbling can help), and do things that you like to learn the language (TV series, websites, games...)

What now?

I'll keep my Duoling tree gold, maybe translate something in Immersion and I'll try 3 months of Babbel. My goal now is vocabulary, so I'll watch a lot of Fernsehrien like the Netflix originals, which you can change the language to German.

Duolingo was even more helpful for me due to the fact that I am not a native English speaker, so I could practise both English and German at the same time.

January 24, 2016

63 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/JoaoRMarcos

Well done! My German tree is done and I'm still working on it. I want to improve it and get vocabulary too.

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Katja-z

This may help "Deutsche Welle" is a german broadcaster- you may have seen their news programms on PBS, also has German Courses on their site at http://www.dw.com/en/learn-german/s-2469, they have different levels, grammar, video and also news stories with video and audio that are spoken more slowly with particularly good enunciation and no dialect accent which I find very helpful. If the top link does not go ditrctly to the language part, the main site is http://www.dw.com/en/top-stories/s-9097. Just scroll to the bottom and click on learning German. Another really good thing is that the German language courses are available in something like 20 languages. And it is free as well.

sorry about the double post-messed up

January 25, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/miguelangel_43

Thanks, how do you plan to get more vocabulary? Besides doing Duoling.

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Katja-z

This may help "Deutsche Welle" is a german broadcaster- you may have seen their news programms on PBS, also has German Courses on their site at http://www.dw.com/en/learn-german/s-2469, they have different levels, grammar, video and also news stories with video and audio that are spoken more slowly with particularly good enunciation and no dialect accent which I find very helpful. If the top link does not go ditrctly to the language part, the main site is http://www.dw.com/en/top-stories/s-9097. Just scroll to the bottom and click on learning German. Another really good thing is that the German language courses are available in something like 20 languages. And it is free as well.

January 25, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/JoaoRMarcos

Well, watching videos on YouTube in German, reading news, books and I don't know more ways.

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/AnjaMostertman

Gut gemacht! Ich finde dieses Podcast auch cool: http://pukkagerman.com/

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/ahmedsamer12

Soo Nice i wish you to finish it soon ,bro

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Lorel90

Congratulations!! Please come back and let us know about your experience with Babbel.

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Johannes-001

My girlfriend is a fluent non-native German speaker and says that watching Eckhart Tolle (The Power of Now guy) videos in German is helpful because he generally speaks slowly.

January 25, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/miguelangel_43

Thank you for sharing it! have a lingot

January 25, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Johannes-001

Danke schön!

January 25, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/AlejandroP298

In my humble experience, completing a tree is not enough to learn a language. You have to inmerse.

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/.clayton.

Strongly Agree, but it sounds like you are doing fantastic expanding vocal and working with other resources.

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/arnoldvl

About television series. "Tatort" is the most popular series in Germany. You can always find recent episodes on http://ard.de . Some earlier episodes can be found at http://www.ardmediathek.de/tv . These shows are very convenient for people learning German because close captioning is available ("Untertiteln" or "UT"). The captions are in German, so if you cannot understand the spoken dialog, a printed copy is available on the screen of exactly what is said.

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/miguelangel_43

Thank you so much, Video content with subtitles is exactly what I was looking for.

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/arnoldvl

You can also watch the daily news at http://www.tagesschau.de. Untertiteln are available here too.

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Lucwg

I really liked your tips. It's fantastic the learning method of Duolingo. I am studying the English language and think that the site Duolingo is very good.

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/PJCSantos

Congratulations, it's amazing how you become fluent in such a short time. How many hours per day did you spend on learning German?

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/bastianbalthazar

It is not my place to answer but since it is a community I thought I would throw in my two cents:

I think everyone has his or her own definitions of fluency. I would venture to say that the average person takes roughly 2 years to reach real fluency in German, and this is only with lots and lots of practice and total immersion. I say this from personal experience. I have lived in Germany for a year and study at least a few hours every day without fail. My German is passable, but no where near what I would consider fluent (being able to be grammatically correct without long pauses, asking for help, switching to English words now and then, etc). But broken German with a decent German accent? Yes, I have been able to achieve that.

Also, I have many friends here in Berlin who have come from all over the world and are learning German. None of them speak proper German yet, even those who have studied in school to learn German for over a year. This doesn't mean that they won't, just that language takes a while to fully emerge in the learner. I remember feeling so discouraged when I couldn't speak fluently after one year. But I truly believe this is unrealistic in the case of the average learner.

This isn't to say that there are not extremely talented language learners or people who had a German primer from a German-speaking parent or from studying in high school. Some of these people can learn German in under a year and be a true fluent speaker.

But for those of us starting from scratch (I did a year ago), it is a long and difficult (and often fun) journey. I am able to write in German quickly and relatively fluently (though there are mistakes for sure).

Viel Glück und Erfolg beim Deutsch Lernen!

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/miguelangel_43

My concept of fluency is being able to communicate without too many pauses, that would be B1 in European Standards, I think. Please don't take me wrong, I have a long way ahead.

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/PJCSantos

Oh I thought by fluent you meant at least C1, but like lance said, everyone has his own definition of fluency. Still great achievement! To increase your vocabulary I suggest you to do the 5000 top words course on Memrise.

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/YoungSpice94

My definition of fluent has been bilingual (one step above fluent), in which case I can be rudely awakened in the middle of the night and asked something and answer smoothly with no pauses or grammar mistakes.

Sounds goofy but I think that would be the ultimate test..at least for me XD

January 25, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/bastianbalthazar

I think it's amazing when people undertake such a massive challenge as learning a new language. Don't want to knock anyone. I would venture to guess I am somewhat of a slow learner in some regards. But we all go at a different pace.

I myself hover somewhere between the B1 an B2. My spoken German needs a looooot of work as I lack confidence and the ability to instantly pull from my memory bank. But a little better every day!

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/miguelangel_43

I think we should motivate each other in this difficult task, so don't be frustrated and enjoy the path. :)

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/bastianbalthazar

Ich stimme dir völlig zu!

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/DeutschLearner_

Danke für die Tipps :D

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Xemacs
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Good on you. I am not a native English speaker either. It helps me to practice my English as well. Learned some new English words from the app.

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/John-AI4FR

Excellent discussion by all and thanks for the tips!!

January 25, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/germanwannabee

Great job on your tree! two questions: 1) do you have to pay to start/join a verbling language group? 2) and which netflix shows/movies that can be put into German do you recommend?

January 25, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/miguelangel_43

1) No, it's free. 2) I used to watch Lost in Netflix Germany with a VPN but that's not possible anymore, because they don't allow access via VPN anymore. Lost has easy vocabulary, they speak slowly and it is easy to follow. (you can still watch it in kinox.to) Now I'm watching Marvel's Jessica Jones :)

January 25, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/germanwannabee

Viel Dank! Ist Jessica Jones gut?

January 25, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/miguelangel_43

Es macht viel spaß und es ist sehr interessant. Ich habe auch "Die Brücke" gesehen. Es ist eine schwedish/danish Fernsehrien von Polizisten, wirklich gut.

January 25, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/YoungSpice94

Silly question... I know Duolingo alone won't get you native like abilities, but does it show all the grammar rules? And do you feel that you have an advantage of an English native like myself since I would assume your native language has gender cases (maybe)?

January 25, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/miguelangel_43

I think it covers pretty much all the grammar rules that you would study in an intermediate level. My native language (Spanish) does have gender cases and declinations but I don't think it's a big advantage. A big advantage for me is being able to speak English because German is more similar to English than Spanish. Above all, the biggest advantage is that this is the second language that I learn and I know what one have to get through to reach fluency.

January 25, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/ElizabethKrispin

I am very much in awe of your accomplishment! Great Job.

Elizabeth

January 25, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/ahmedsamer12

Now THAT"S NICE I hope all be like you , bro :) <3

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/arnoldvl

And a variety of German shows are available on YouTube. I particularly enjoy "Um Himmels Willen". But close captioning is not usually available.

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/miguelangel_43

I just saw "Um Himmels Willen" with UT in das erste website http://www.daserste.de/unterhaltung/serie/um-himmels-willen/index.html

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/CraigdelaRey

You are amazing! I am still so early into my tree. You give me hope!

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/miguelangel_43

Es freut mich sehr!

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/rebels4life

I'm impressed dude really and thanks for the tips

January 27, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Sonic_CD_Fan

nice tips miguelangel_43 I will share it with my friend!

January 28, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/bastianbalthazar

Herzlichen Glückwunsch mit deinem Erfolg!

Das ist eine riesige Leistung, wenn du wirklich fließendes Deutsch nur nach acht Monaten sprechen kann. Hattest du vorher die Sprache gelernt? Im Gymnasium zum Beispiel. Die Meisten menschen brauchen minimum ein paar Jahr echtes Deutsch zu lernen.

Ich stelle diese Frage, weil ich für ein Jahr in Deutschland gelebt habe aber kann noch nicht fließendes Deutsch sprechen. Ich verstehe viel, und kann auf Deutsch ziemlich gut schreiben and lesen.

Ich spreche und höre viel Deutsch jeden Tag. Ich denke, dass ich vielleicht in einem Jahr fließendes Deutsch sprechen werde.

Kannst du für uns ein "Sample" von deinem Leistung geben? Deine Stimme oder schreiben auf Deutsch zum Beispiel. Ich bin völlig neugierig!

Danke fürs Teilen!

mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Lance

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/person243

Really good, and easy to understand. Just a few misstakes:

Herzlichen Glückwunsch zu deinem Erfolg!

Das ist eine riesige Leistung, wenn du wirklich fließend Deutsch, nach nur acht Monaten, sprechen kannst. Hattest du (schon) vorher die Sprache gelernt? Im Gymnasium zum Beispiel. Die meisten Menschen brauchen Minimum ein paar Jahre, um echtes Deutsch zu lernen.

Ich stelle diese Frage, weil ich für ein Jahr in Deutschland gelebt habe, aber noch nicht fließend Deutsch sprechen kann. Ich verstehe viel und kann auf Deutsch ziemlich gut schreiben and lesen.

Ich spreche und höre viel Deutsch jeden Tag. Ich denke, dass ich vielleicht in einem Jahr fließend Deutsch sprechen werde.

Kannst du für uns ein Beispiel ("Sample") von deinen Leistungen/für deine Leistung geben? Deine Stimme oder (kannst du) etwas auf Deutsch schreiben zum Beispiel. Ich bin völlig neugierig!

Danke fürs Teilen!

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Lance

Yes, I think in a year, probably less, you will be totally fluent. I don't like the word "fließendes Deutsch"= "flowing German". It is the German speaking, that is fluent. Wouldn't you agree. PS: In letter form some people write "Du" with a big "D". That is not mandatory anymore, but still common. It is like the formal "Sie" in this case. It somehow shows respect and makes clear that "Du" is referring to the addressee.

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/bastianbalthazar

Thanks so much for your valuable feedback! I am studying your tips right now to further improve my grammar.

I asked my boyfriend (a native German speaker), and he concurred that "fließendes Deutsch" sounds funny. I get confused sometimes when to declinate the adjective or not.

I also asked my boyfriend about the capitalised "Du" versus "du" and he says it is "old school". He says he prefers "Du" as part of his own personal usage of the language though. It feels a bit funny for me to use, but maybe I can try introducing it more into my written German. I agree that it gives more importance to the person somehow. It elevates the plain old "du" into something nicer.

Thanks again!

-Lance

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Merilsell

Ich würde das "fließend deutsch" auch eher in Zusammenhang mit/in einem Satz benutzen. Also, "Er spricht fließend Deutsch (oder Spanisch, etc)" ist schon ein Satz den wir hier benutzen. Aber die beiden Wörter einfach so zusammen packen klingt schon ein bissl komisch /nitpick ;)

Aber hey, dein Deutsch ist schon echt super. Nur weiter so! :)

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Markie733246

Well Done!

January 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/JessJebsEm

Well done dude, the way i watch series in German and french to learn is using an app called "Hola" you can change the location of netflix, and you can watch series in different languages.

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Manish.MI

i honestly want to learn duolino .

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Manish.MI

would be glad if you could help me out in grammer

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Adam9812

Sehr gut gemacht! Alles gute dafuer!

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/EvBev1

great

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/EvBev1

cool

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/EvBev1

awesome

January 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Schtefano

Congratulations! I am still early in my German tree conquest, so I've been checking out these discussions and collecting links that people recommend. I find it very helpful. Anyway, I am interested what would be the level of a learner who has completed the German tree on Duolingo? Is it A1, or A2, or...neither? Of course it is all individual, and depends on the learner's focus, but regarding the content of the tree, I guess it's possible to grade it. I don't think it's enough to be considered a B1 level, maybe with a lot of side learning, like listening podcasts, watching TV shows, reading German content etc. If anyone knows, please reply :)

Cheers

January 27, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/AgentWaffles4

You can use Google Translate and help your German Tree stay Gold but sadly sometimes Google Translate gets it wrong. :(

January 29, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Manish.MI

ya thats true

January 29, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Manish.MI

even i tried the same on short tastes but the wrong translations made me out of the test .

January 29, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/AgentWaffles4

same with me but even WORSE I was in a long test :( :( !

January 29, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Manish.MI

i see

January 29, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Manish.MI

Whenever you get into a test in duolingo you cans core only 4 negatives . And its bad to get out of the game after more than 20 to 25 questions are over . its very sad . till date i could not pass even 1 skill test .

January 29, 2016
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