https://www.duolingo.com/DavidKorenek

New monuments!

DavidKorenek
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Hi I was looking at the Duolingo design guidelines page and found there are course monuments but in a little bit different design. Some are whole new - like the romanian one.

See: https://www.duolingo.com/design/

They look like this:

Italian

Russian

Turkish

So my question to the Duolingo team is: Why are these monuments way different than those on the course page? Are the white monuments going to be replaced with these colored?

I think these new are better than the old ones. What do you think?

2 years ago

38 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/alexinIreland
alexinIreland
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This is really interesting! I think they look way nicer than the current white-ish landmarks on the plain backgrounds. A few interesting things I noticed:

  • Irish is now represented by Bunratty Castle, instead of Blarney Castle.
  • Vietnamese and Romanian have different monuments.
  • Yiddish has a monument!
  • Hebrew's monument (the Western Wall) looks so much better in colour than in the current white version.
  • Where are Dutch, Danish, Klingon, Catalan, etc.? Could there be more new designs in the works?

I really hope they start using these monuments...they're really nice.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/het_aapje
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Hopefully the Yiddish monument means that there may be further development in the course :D

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Knocksedan

Who picks these monuments? Bunratty or Blarney Castel? I doubt if 1% of the population of Ireland would be able to identify either of those locations from a simple silhouette, and I doubt that even that many people outside Ireland who might be interested in the course would recognize them either. A Round Tower (just a stylized Round Tower, not any specific one), a Dolmen, a Martello Tower, the Giants Causeway, the Cliffs of Moher, Croah Patrick, Ben Bulben, the Rock of Cashel, or maybe a map of Galway Bay and the Aran Islands strike me as better choices, though I'd probably go for a Harp, or maybe a Celtic Cross.

I wonder was someone trying to be ironic by picking a Castle, a place where English was likely the primary language, as a symbol for an Irish Language course?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ConorHoughton
ConorHoughton
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Bunratty Castle was held by the Earls of Thomond, who I would guess spoke Gaeilge; similarly Blarney Castle and the Kings of Desmond.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ConorHoughton
ConorHoughton
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Yup, but they are associated with the Thomonds and Desmonds.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Knocksedan

That was long before Irish started to decline as a language. In the early 18th century, when both of these castles passed from their traditional ownership, they would have been islands of English in generally Irish speaking areas.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/landsend
landsend
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Irish is now represented by Bunratty Castle, instead of Blarney Castle.

Too bad, considering the symbolism of Blarney Castle.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lizsue
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The Temple of Literature in Vietnam has an obvious connection to language: literature is written in languages! There's more information at http://goseasia.about.com/od/vietnamstopattractions/a/temple_of_literature_hanoi.htm . :)

Does Turtle Tower have any similar connotation of language?

Blarney Castle in Ireland has this legend:

http://www.blarneycastle.ie/pages/kiss-the-blarney-stone says "For over 200 years, world statesmen, literary giants, and legends of the silver screen have joined the millions of pilgrims climbing the steps to kiss the Blarney Stone and gain the gift of eloquence." :)

Does Bunratty Castle have any similar legend about language?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Knocksedan

I'm well aware of the legend of the Blarney stone - it hardly justifies the selection of a building that would be associated with the English speaking Anglo-Irish more than the Irish speaking native population. But if the symbol is more to do with cultural tourism than the Irish language itself, then Bunratty is indeed the ideal replacement - it is most famous for it's medieval feasts and entertainment for busloads of American tourists.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lizsue
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Thanks for clearing that up! :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Hyllning

Interesting. I would also prefer the new colored ones than the older ones.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scarcerer
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I think the new ones look nicer overall. The only one I'm not so sure about is Romanian, which looks… interesting. And yay for Yiddish!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DavidKorenek
DavidKorenek
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Yes the Romanian and Vietnamese monuments look a bit strange. The Voronet monastery for Romanian and Temple of literature vor Vietnamese looks better.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/belridetulo
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The new Romanian one reminds me of a sex toy ))

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/flootzavut
flootzavutPlus
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I didn't want to say, but that was my first thought too. Wee bit unfortunate...

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TranVanHaiNam
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I agree with you ^^

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/soedori
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So they are changing it?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DavidKorenek
DavidKorenek
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Thats what I'd like to know :D Duolingo team didn't answer yet

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/vegjjany
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Well, I have a feeling that these "new" monuments are actually old designs. This might explains why we don't see Catalan's, Guarani"s, Danish's, Klingon's, Dutch's, Polish's and Greek's.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scarcerer
scarcerer
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There are three problems with that theory:

  1. Polish and Dutch were among the first six courses added for English speakers (all in one day)
  2. The Turkish and Swedish monuments shown on the design page are the updated ones (Swedish used to have Turning torso, can't remember the Turkish one)
  3. The only place Duo is using round monuments is on your profile and they were added there last autumn with current design
2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlexinNotTurkey
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We used to have the Library of Celsus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Celsus

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Noah_B_16
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Yeah that could be, but Danish and Dutch were under construction before there was a Hebrew course in the works, yet Hebrew has a "new" monument. I think it's more likely that the courses might be 're-vamping' their course pages to look more appealing and some of the people who have worked on the courses you mentioned above might not have created a new, colored monument yet, like the Polish course contributors who have just released their course are probably more focused on corrections and notes rather than creating/coloring their monument, if that makes sense.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/vegjjany
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Yes, this makes a lot of sense. I think that would be interesting to see colored monuments, but the Romanian's one is not so cool as the current.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DavidKorenek
DavidKorenek
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But the monuments is work for a designer not for a course contributor :D

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/no.name.42
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I think these fit in better with the new aesthetic on the app.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rhythmixed
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I think these are really cute! I love them!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/.j.a.s.p.e.r.
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Nice find! I prefer the colored versions as well, although the white ones were nice too! Also, I notice that Klingon is not on the list.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DavidKorenek
DavidKorenek
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More languages aren't on the list - greek, polish, danish... I hope their monuments are being developed

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/landsend
landsend
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Radio buttons to fill blanks? Finally! The drop down boxes are not so nice and don't work well when used via keyboard.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/flootzavut
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I like them. I love the one of St Basil's!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Stigjohan
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Seems strange that they put the Norwegian monument, Sverd i stein, on a green hill — the name means "Swords in Rock", after all. Apart from that, I think the monuments look really nice with a little more colour!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jimnicholson
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OK, but isn't the most interesting bit - the mention of Reverse speech?

"Tapping the button activates the listening process, while an inactive area behind it transcribes what the learner is speaking."

Has anyone seen this in the wild as part of an A/B test?

Perhaps this is one of the new features Luis Von Ahn described in his Quora interview.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/adamyoung97
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I love the Hungarian's Heroes Square design! :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/staplesnout
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I prefer the older minimalistic designs. These new ones are beautiful indeed, but have too many small details and are indistinguishable at the first glance. In the white silhouettes there is something solid and light at the same time.

If it would be possible to use the older ones on the places, where small and informative pictures are required and the new ones for more decorative purposes, it would be good.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DavidKorenek
DavidKorenek
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Or maybe these monuments are for whole new function

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/orde90
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These are the same with the current graphics. The only difference is that these ones are colorful. I guess the designers first design them in color and then they remove the colors to make it look more distinguishable, minimalistic and consistent. And they also make very minor changes to make the design look still distinguishable in colorless mode e.g. the projection of the horse at the top of the Brandenburg Gate. But these colorful ones can be needed in the future so that's why they keep them as they are.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pineapplepig

love the new monuments

2 years ago
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