"I know her uncle."
Translation:Znam jej wujka.
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It is: I know uncle of her. Why isn't it: I know uncle her?
Znać requires accusative case.
Her uncle is: jej wujek (nom.), jej wujka (gen.), jej wujkowi (dat.), jej wujka (accus.)....
Possesive pronoun stays the same.
SUppose we have: znam sekret Kasi (I know the Kate's secret ).
Kate's secret would be:
- M: sekret Kasi
- G: sekretu Kasi
- D: sekretowi Kasi
- A: sekret Kasi
- I: sekretem Kasi
- L: sekrecie Kasi
- V: sekrecie Kasi
In this case ('of Kate') part stays the same.
Is the word "stryj" (father's brother) still used in modern Polish for uncle? I thought it would be introduced later in the topic so didn't ask earlier, but now I'm doing the last level of Family, still no stryj. And is "wujek" the only appropriate form in modern Polish, isn't "wuj" used at all? Thank you.
OK, that's really weird because a few hours ago I've been thinking about those words without absolutely any reason, and now I read a question about them o_O
Anyway, while of course I can't just speak for all language users, I believe that "stryj" (and "stryjek") are rather rare nowadays. Yes, in theory there is a distinction between "wujek" (mom's brother) and "stryjek" (dad's brother), but the vast majority of speakers would probably use "wujek" for both of them. Personally I'd call "wujek" any male family member from a generation older than mine, apart from my dad and my grandpas, obviously ;)
"wuj" is a problematic word, because it sounds very similar to one of the most basic swearwords. Besides, even without it, at least to my ear it sounds like an augmentative noun and seems to convey that I don't really like this uncle and that's why I use such a formal word to refer to him. And it also seems rare to me.
We don't teach any other word than "wujek", but all four should be accepted in every sentence about uncle.
Thank you! I have no problem using the right word with Duolingo, I'm a lawful subject and use the words I'm given:) I just knew those stryj/wuj forms from somewhere (Zemsta? Pan Tadeusz? definitely dictionaries too) and was wondering at that "wujek" form here on DL. Both poems are old, I know, that's why I was asking about modern usage. Thanks again.
Very interesting about using "wujek" with older male relatives in general, not just uncles. Not just it replaced the other stryj-uncle, but goes even broader:)
That was my point more or less, it's interesting how a very distinct Polish word for mother's own brother, exceptionally precise as opposed to the broad meaning of English "uncles" and "cousins", expands its meaning and covers not only father's own brothers but other male relatives of that generation too, all within a visible period of time, not some millenial history. The living process right in front of our eyes :)
Speaking of weird things. I was going through a dictionary and the word "uncle" was just sitting there on the page. Pociot, obsolete, aunt's husband. Pociotek, colloquial, distant male relative. Pociotka, colloquial, (a) distant female relative, (b) uncle's wife. They aren't in use either, I guess? :)
Where I grew up, Uncle can be a polite way to address any man when you are a child. So a family friend might be 'Uncle Graham', 'Uncle Tom'. Then when you got to about 16+, you drop the Uncle and they are just Graham and Tom. Other than that, for family we just use Uncle as our immediate uncles. It is hard sometimes to remember the exact relation of distant family members, but would describe them as 'my mum's uncle' or 'my mum's second cousin', but never just Uncle. Probably varies considerably depending on where you are from though.
Lol! I have fluctuated btwn calling my mom by her first name and by any variant of mom (except "mother", she dislikes that one bc of something she associates with it) since I was probably about nine or so and she was my scout leader (first came abt bc I needed to get her attention) but then again, ma & I have one of those relationships that is almost as sisterly as it is parent/child.
On the other hand, I still find myself calling my father "daddy" more than the alternatives, and I'm in my mid40s.
Your question got me thinking... it's funny, I grew up referring to my mom's best friend as "Aunt Pam" and still do to this day in my mid40s, but yet, in the past several years, I have hardly refered to Mom's brothers (when in convo with her) as "Uncle Bob"or "Uncle Tim". Didn't realize the diff abt that until your question. :)
In Germany it used to be like that too, nowadays it's much more common to use the first names. Not just for friends but also within the family - I call all my relatives by their first names. "aunty" or "mommy" might be used as a term of endearment, but normally I'd use their names. An exception were my grandparents, when they were still alive.
Some 40, 50 years ago "aunt" and "uncle" where used when speaking to children about unknown adults. A mother might tell her child for example to "give that glove to that aunt", if a woman walking in front of them had dropped her glove.
I actually wrote something about it above: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/13163573?comment_id=27351581
But if anything, it should rather be the other way round, "stryj(ek)" for your father's brother and "wuj(ek)" for your mother's brother.