"Friday"

Translation: dydd Gwener

[nolothot]

Often, words that were <v> in Latin, which made their way into the Celtic languages, became <gw> in the Brythonic languages (Welsh, Breton and Cornish.) Other examples are vinum becoming gwin (wine) and viridis becoming gwyrdd (green). I had a hard time remembering Gwener - but then remembered this trait and saw the link to Venerdì, Vendredi, Viernes. Thought I'd share in case this is helpful to someone else too :D.

[Straw_Neige]

Thank you :)

[Cyzaki]

Diolch!

[whickre]

Diolch, nolothot!

[Doshia2]

When I took Latin, I was taught that v was pronounced w.

[nolothot]

To those whom this tip helped, dim problem :)

Doshia2: V was pronounced W in classical times, but <> denotes orthography, not phonology, which is // or []. Thus, <Cymru> /ˈkəm.ri/ or <vīnum> /ˈwiː.num/.

[BGL008]

I was going to say something similar.

[JudithRemk]

Why is 'dydd' sometimes used and sometimes omitted?

[shwmae]

Can you give me some examples of what you mean?

dydd Gwener = "the day of Friday" i.e. "Friday daytime"

nos Wener = "the night of Friday" i.e. "Friday night"

bore (dydd) Gwener = "the morning (of the day) of Friday" i.e. "Friday morning"

prynhawn (dydd) Gwener = "the afternoon (of the day) of Friday" i.e. "Friday afternoon"

Stuff like that?

[JudithRemk]

Yes, why are both bore Gwener and bore dydd Gwener correct? And (more importantly) when do I use which?

[shwmae]

They're both correct because they both make literal sense:

bore dydd Gwener = "the morning of the day of Friday"

bore Gwener = "the morning of Friday"

i.e. both are valid translations of "Friday morning"

You can use both equally. They're both very common.

[JudithRemk]

Thank you! Makes sense now :-)

[shwmae]

Croeso :)

[Anon81924]

I had the right words, but in the wrong order.