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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ifphigenia

Have you lost immersion? if so let's all get together and get it reinstated .edit NOW BACK!!.

I am suggesting a group petition to persuade Duolingo to reinstate immersion, in my view the most valuable tool we have (had) got.

If this idea seems far fetched it has had some success in the past in getting glitches sorted out quickly, so if you have lost your immersion for languages which previously had it add your name to this post and please upvote it so that it gets attention.

To Duolingo staff, please note that you have a sizeable number of users for whom immersion is the main reason for being here and who have learnt more there from interaction with native speakers than by any other method.

We who have added our names here are politely requesting that you reinstate our valuable, if not invaluable tool as soon as possible.

TO ALL THE CONTRIBUTORS HERE PLEASE ADD YOUR NAME AND UPVOTE. THANKYOU .

I am also posting this in the general forum to obtain maximum exposure.

Edit. Please note once I have the names I will submit a report to support using this as evidence of the need to keep immersion.

GOOD NEWS

PER DUOLINGO STAFF IMMERSION IS NOT BEING REMOVED IT IS A TECHNICAL HITCH AND WILL BE RESOLVED ASAP ....... SEE COMMENT BY mstreeter below.

Thanks to everyone who commented and to Duo for their fast response.

BAD NEWS 20th January 2017

PER LUIS'S COMMENT HERE https://www.duolingo.com/comment/20364950 IMMERSION HAS NOW OFFICIALY AND PERMANENTLY BEEN REMOVED!

There now seems no point in trying to convince the people at Duo to return it as they clearly don't care about our opinions at all. A sad day for those of us who found immersion such a valuable resource. RIP immersion, we will miss you greatly.

Edit: I will give this one last try .... We have nothing to lose by trying, as nothing, in terms of immersion, is what we currently have!

As Immersion has now been permanently axed, despite our best efforts, THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED PLEASE SEE HERE https://www.duolingo.com/comment/20374000 and for an alternative to immersion see here https://www.duolingo.com/comment/22228863

February 2, 2016

79 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mstreeter

We're not removing it; it's off temporarily due to technical issues. Sorry for the confusion!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ifphigenia

Thanks for your reply, you can see the depth of feeling and we were all aware of the AB test. I will add a note at the top now but keep a note of the names and comments in case thge tests go against us.

Once again, thank you for your speedy response.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/b05aplmun.ca

You might want to also announce this on the main discussion page. It's a tad buried here. (Someone has already announced it unofficially, but that's not quite the same.)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/b05aplmun.ca

Thanks for letting us know.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Prol3psis

Thanks for the update. It is good to see it back again. I hope the staff will not consider removing it in the future, as it really is the best part of DL, the part that makes all the difference to many of your users.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Splushkin

Thank you for the update.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/knittingirl

Thank you so much! I was really sad for a few minutes when I logged on this morning :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/letra_a

Thanks for keeping us informed, mstreeter.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lizheartsthesox

Thank you. If possible, can things like this be announced on the Twitter or Facebook? That would help avoid the panic that occurred last night.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/letra_a

Mstreeter, could you please inform us about the missing link to Immersion now? Is it still a new A/B test or something definitive? Thanks a lot in advance for your reply.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Luscinda

Massively off topic but I need to pick your brains, are you here? Tell me about the jam/jelly thing in your world, will you? I have people wanting to use jam in 'mercan and I always thought that was infra dig for you guys.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Aleksa13579

Do you mind telling us an approximate date Immersion will be back. I've been using Duolingo and i haven't got a chance to use it yet. Please hurry up.

-xoxo Aleksa from Serbia


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Prol3psis

As far as I can tell the immersion feature has disappeared for all the languages I was using it for. If indeed this is supposed to be a permanent removal, then I am utterly disappointed. Immersion was the one single feature that turned DL from being just another mainstream language site into an extraordinary dynamic learning environment. Without immersion, the site totally loses its meaning for me and becomes just another mediocre language site among many. Please count me in for the petition, Gena. I second everything you say. I think DL will lose an enormous amount of quality members if they are going through with this and I think they may regret it in the end.

I'm just wondering, is there any alternative for immersion somewhere on the net? Does anyone have any idea?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dcarl1

Would love to know, as I would migrate there. Anyone have any ideas?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrankKool

If you're looking for an alternative, you can do writing exercises on busuu.com. Other users will often give you good feedback.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Prol3psis

Thanks for the tip.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dcarl1

It's really the only reason I am here. I've been working on my Italian tree slowly, but once I finish it, if Immersion is still gone I will leave. Repeating variations on "the shark would like to bite the snake" and the like forevermore has zero appeal.

It's - as you say - the way I have learnt most from native speakers. Without it, this is a simplistic game with limited learning potential. With it, I have translated complex novels, learened refinements of language from native speakers, and challenged my vocabulary to grow exponentially beyond the basic "words" offered by DuoLingo.

I am extremely disappointed.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/b05aplmun.ca

I'm another person who is still here largely because of Immersion. I don't know that I would go away completely if it doesn't return, but I will certainly be here less often and probably for shorter periods of time.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EranuUvavu

Immersion is by far the most interesting part of Duolingo.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/thenick.

I would love to join, but the reasons are all there for the Duo staff to rid of immersion. They stated that in the last few years little to no revenue has been generated by the immersion tool. I would love to see Immersion again, but unlikely I think.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Faeryeye

Immersion has helped me so much.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/letter_s

Please fix this glitch and bring back immersion as soon as possible. Some of us are really serious about using it and use it fairly and learn a lot from it. We also help other students learn by our corrections and comments. Thank you for listening.


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    I think it's a glitch in the system, and a petition won't help, because petitions don't fix language-learning website glitches. Unfair, but again, life is not fair.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ifphigenia

    Petitions do fix glitches by bringing them to the staff's attention quickly, languagelover and I had some success with another glitch last year, it was fixed very quickly indeed. All it needs is for staff to be aware of the scale of the problem.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/b05aplmun.ca

    Given the general direction of things, the complete removal of Immersion is not at all far-fetched. (In case you're not aware, a decision was made in, I think, late 2014 not to develop Immersion further and lately Duolingo seems to have been running an A/B test on Immersion.)


    [deactivated user]

      I think Duolingo is aware of the problem, there are many posts in the troubleshooting forums, it should be fixed soon. If it happens to be a permanent remove, they will probably notify the community.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hopeisnotlost

      for some reason I can't comment on your stream QQjoy.I think you might have blocked me.Sorry if I said something rude I didn't meanto.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LinguoPanda

      Count me in. Immersion is the only reason I'm still using duolingo


      [deactivated user]

        Immersion has been my favorite too in Duolingo. Please bring it back soon


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CharmingTiger

        I would like my Immersion tab reinstated immediately. Thank you.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ReidHT

        Count me in.

        -ReidHT


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ALoUSyUseRnaME

        Count me in. I would like immersion to return.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/quantifier

        Please bring back immersion. I really enjoyed it. It is the only reason I am here. Q


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Splushkin

        I hope that this is just a temporary problem and it will be resolved soon. It would be very sad if Immersion is gone for good.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/letra_a

        Add me, too, Gena. With all the respect due to a great application to learn languages, Immersion is the feature that makes Duo unique online in all the world. It is a wonderful tool to learn and to interactuate in a great community. Duo community is built on Immersion.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LaExtranjera

        Without immersion the fun is gone.
        It doesn't seem to be making any revenue as a translation business so maybe they could advertise hotels, flights or travel sites to raise money.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ClimateCanary

        Don't panic, it will only be a glitch....;)


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CaptainLevi.

        I wish it was still here. I just found out about the enigmatic disappearance. I found it quite helpful, in fact I was thinking about uploading for the first time.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ClimateCanary

        Oddly, you can still upload, I just have!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CaptainLevi.

        Is that so? How would I go about that? I hope it is reinstated.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ClimateCanary

        Find a wiki article in French, copy and paste the url into the non commercial part of immersion and follow the instructions, choosing category and language.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CaptainLevi.

        Merci beaucoup! Greatly appreciated!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ifphigenia

        Just to let everybody know that I am still keeping a note of the names on this discussion, so if one of these glitches turns out to be permanent we are ready with the petition.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/caro85yabuelo27

        Es un magnífico texto, ...donde intervenir, ¡¡SUMA!!

        LAMENTABLEMENTE SEÑORES DIRECTORES DE DUOLINGO,...¡ No estoy disponiendo del tiempo ncesario, para continuar, recibiendo y participando!

        Tengo 86 años,...¡Y algunas cositas de DUO, debo resignar!

        Saludo a ustedes con las expresiones de mi consideración más distinguida. Ernesto


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CoolKat222

        Fluffypeeka (A.K.A Alexandra)


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CherylWatkins

        So have Duolingo confirmed that it's gone forever? Mine only disappeared about a week ago. I really miss it and thought it was a really good addition to the basic format. As a result I will probably lose interest in Duolingo and stop using it, and I'm sure I won't be the only one. It would be nice if they would confirm it one way or t'other.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaye16

        There is a link where some former Immersion folk are starting up a translation group. You might want to check it out. It shows promise. here


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/letra_a

        Unfortunately, it has been confirmed. There is a petition going on on Change.org to ask Duolingo to bring it back. Maybe you want to add your voice there, Cheryl: https://www.change.org/p/luis-von-ahn-don-t-turn-duolingo-into-a-game?

        Greetings!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CherylWatkins

        Thanks letra_a I've signed that


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Leatherback

        Why did Immersion have to go away. I used it quiet a lot and got many XP by doing it. It made me always look forward to going on to Duo but now it is gone.

        If the petition is still going on then I sign -Leatherback.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Vicharian

        I find I am less regular with language practice (keep losing streaks) since immersion was removed. :(


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CCarrot

        I used to use duolingo for hours using immersion. Now I'm done within 15 minutes. I hope they bring back immersion.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ifphigenia

        They have axed immersion permanently now, despite our best efforts to save it. However, the user JoThelan has started a forum where ex-immersion users can continue to collaborate on translations. here is the link. http://communitytranslation.freeforums.net/


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lizheartsthesox

        Just in case it's not a glitch, please keep immersion. I'm going to see if there's anything on their Twitter or Facebook page about it.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/G6In3D

        This place needs Immersion.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/caro85yabuelo27

        ¡¡IT'S NECCESARY FOR ME!! PLEASE DUOLINGO ...¡DON'T TAKE OFF INMERSION! THANKS Ernesto


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Libertad54

        I can see now that this also happened a few weeks ago. I would like to know if this time we are going to take immersion back again. I hope so. It is the best resource for learning.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mathso2

        Consider my name added.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/anothernobody

        PLEASE BRING IMMERSION BACK!!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dxm300

        Immersion is basically the only reason I use Duolingo. What happened? Two days ago I was using it for an hour a day to study my Spanish.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ClimateCanary

        French immersion is back!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AghyadK

        Hi... As of now, does anyone have access to immersion (French in particular)? Thanks


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/letra_a

        I have, AghyadK, from French into Spanish and French into English.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AghyadK

        thank you for the speedy reply :) ... I'm having a 404 (not found) instead :( ... for French and Turkish


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AghyadK

        Would you please place a screen shot or a link?... if possible


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/letra_a

        I cannot say if Immersion from French to Turkish has ever existed. I am supposing you have ever translated in a text in those languages? I am just asking as not every language has Immersion...


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AghyadK

        Sorry about the confusion, I meant English <-> French and Turkish <-> English... I can view immersion when not logged, but not when I log in :(


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/letra_a

        I see :) No problem, you need to add those languages through your profile. Go to your profile -> configuration -> languages - "See all the courses" and change the "I speak Turkish into English and / or French, so that you can access Immersion from French into English or English into French (it depends on the language you choose) You do not lose your EXP or levels, you can go back to Turkish whenever you want. Hope this helps! :)


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/b05aplmun.ca

        For what it's worth, I don't believe Turkish has Immersion. Also, some relatively new Duolingo users do not have access to Immersion at all, due, apparently, to an A/B test in progress.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AghyadK

        I guess that is the case, because I'm unable to see it at all, I have tried going to https://www.duolingo.com/translations and logging in from there, but I only had a 404 error :(... Anyway, Thanks a lot :)


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaye16

        Phew, you had me scared there for a while. Nice to know it was just a bleep. Thanks Gena for the initiative to start the petition.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/letra_a

        Unfortunately, Gena, the decision is taken https://www.duolingo.com/comment/20364950 :((((


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ifphigenia

        As you say Ana, at least there seemed to be a slim chance when I originally posted this but now we have no hope of getting it back. A sad, sad day.

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