New A/B test: accent mistakes are not marked red
I just realised I've been included in a new A/B test. I don't like it.
I've seen some people complain that it's confusing when Duolingo marks a word red because of an accent mistake but accepts the sentence anyway. Now they are testing this. They only mark these by underlining the word in the correct version of the sentence. The one that is written with green font on green background and you guessed it, it's underlined in green.
I found it very useful especially in timed practise to be able to quickly see when I've made a mistake with accents, you can see the red even when you are not really looking and the sound tells you if it was correct or not. Now I have to slow down deliberately just so that I'm able to see if I remembered all the accents. I've lost a valuable aid in my learning. I hope it's not going to affect my ability to self-correct while learning accent placement in new words.
Has someone else noticed this A/B test? What do you think of it?
I just wrote "ils disont" instead of "Ils disent" twice in a row because I didn't notice I'd made a mistake the first time. (I had made another mistake and fixed that.) The only reason I noticed this now was because I wanted to read the discussions to find more about the other mistake I'd made.
Really not a helpful change.
Most people when asked will probably react the same in this case.
That's not the point, you don't get to choose, or better said, you are not aware of your real choise.
This is about the subconcious impact on users motivation and if it's worth the sacrifice in users progress.
Maybe there is no sacrifice on users progress. Measuring that is the point of this test.
I wasn't addressing the issue of the test, I was responding to NeridaPeters comment that they prefer the new look.
I'm well aware that we don't get a chance, just as I'm aware that DuoLingo sometimes chooses form over function (like using a font that makes it difficult to differentiate between i and í or a page layout that is about 10% too long for the vast majority of 1366x768 laptop screens).
I agree with you. We should choose function over form. However, I can see the new underlined words easily and I can easily see where my mistake is. I also think it's more attractive. I don't know if it is effective or not yet. I disagree that I am choosing form over function.
Given the current styling, I wish there were three separate sounds/chimes. One each for a) correct, b) accepted but I have a typo or missed an accent, and c) whoops, try again.
Tones a and b could remain positive, but just enough of a cue to not rush on and jump to the next question.
Do you use the website or the app, by the way? I use the website on my laptop. The screen is kind of small and the correct answer is at the very bottom of my browser window. If my screen were bigger (and not this cluttered), I could have a bigger browser window and maybe this wouldn't be such a problem for me. (Although, I actually prefer to have my windows small, anyway.)
I'm sure. It's changed.
I have now adopted the habit of looking down where the correct answer will appear. This way I can see the underlined words, but it actually doesn't help me as well as seeing the red in my mistake, for some reason. I keep thinking "what's wrong with that word? Nothing. Oh, it was the correct version, I wonder what my mistake was." Since at that point, I've usually already pressed enter automatically.
I don't see a point in having a site dedicated to learning languages and then not caring about learning languages. Building such site based on wishes of those who just don't want to work would be counterproductive. You can't really spoon feed knowledge or skills to people who expect to magically learn new things just by signing on to a course or a website.
We're all guinea pigs in duolingo's big social experiment.
Maybe, a green underlined accent error instead of a red message, stresses less the users, giving him/her more reason to keep going.
People associates red with failure and that de-motivates them.
These A/B tests usually try to prove that.
I see too much effort put in "how do we prevent new users from leaving" / "increase their usage time".
But I don't see (at least publicly announced), any difficulty increase associated with the user progress.
The fluency score would be grate for that, and I'd prefer to have my words decaying slower, but with harder training sessions (ie, more translate to native ).
No, I noticed the underlining earlier in the week, I just didn't pay much attention to it, as I was busy at the time. It was only when I saw your post that I stopped to think about it. It's not just accents, I just tried a deliberate typo (a double letter) and I got a green response, with "Almost correct!" and the word underlined.
It's not as noticable as the black typo-box was.