"Nie lubię go, bo nie jest miły."

Translation:I do not like him because he is not nice.

February 6, 2016

12 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/BjornsenBjorn

I'm confused. Why is "bo" used here instead of "dlatego ze"? What is the difference between them?

February 6, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/immery

"Bo" has more meanings, but in this one dlatego, że =ponieważ=bo , it is stylistic choice and personal preference.

I think we should not start sentence with "bo" in formal situations. And "bo" is shorter so more often used in casual speaking.

February 7, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/mihxal

Some people consider "bo" not elegant and prefer "ponieważ". But it has one clear advantage - it has 1 syllable, whereas "ponieważ" - 3 ;)

February 7, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Vengir

You shouldn't generally start sentences with „ponieważ” or „dlatego, że” either. It's a stylistic error most of the time regardless of the word used. Also I am not entirely sure of what additional meanings of „bo” you are talking about.

February 7, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/immery

Bo powiem mamie!
ładny, bo ładny ale jaki głupi -I have no idea how they translate.

Bo byli głodni, zjedli śniadanie. - unacceptable ever
Ponieważ byli głodni zjedli sniadanie - I would use everywhere, but I am not good at formal writing.

February 7, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Vengir

The first two sentences for me, although translated with different words to English, express basically the standard meaning of „bo”, even though you couldn't replace them with „ponieważ” or „dlatego, że”. The first one is also a casual expression where starting with „bo” is acceptable.

Personally, I would use „jako że” in place of „ponieważ” and add „postanowili” in that sentence.

February 7, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/immery

I checked sjp.pwn.pl again. and wsjp.pl

It considers "ładny bo ładny" a different meaning of bo, but includes "bo powiem mamie" as the same meaning as standard.

If "Ponieważ" at the beginning is good enough for Iwaszkiewicz, Makuszyński, Polityka, and university textbooks it is good enough for me.

Also I personally consider "jako, że" very formal and a bit outdated

February 7, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/mihxal

"Jako że" is very formal and more emphatic.

February 7, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Vengir

Yes, it is formal. So I would often consider just putting it in the normal order rather than just forcing „ponieważ” at the start.

February 7, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/benmaja

Immery, Vengir etc - thank you, you are all very generous with your time and advice! But do you know how much despair you create in the souls of we pathetic English speakers who now know more than ever that we can never master Polish!

February 7, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/sirwootalot

So, here's the impression I'm getting, please correct me if I'm wrong (I probably am)! I was so intensely confused on the varieties that I dug in and did some research.

"Dlatego, że" = "insomuch as", "is why that", "thusly, due to"; very formal. "He screamed thusly, due to fear", "He ate his sandwich, insomuch as he was hungry".

"ponieważ" = "due to", "because", "since"; more common for giving a reason, and in writing. "He screamed, due to fear", "He ate his sandwich, since he was hungry".

"Bo" = " 'cause", also used in several hard-to-translate phrases; more common for justifying a reason, common in speech, and less formal. EVERY use of "because" I've seen in the Vocative case uses it! "He screamed, because he was afraid", "He ate his sandwich, because he had hunger", "Stop, because I'll shoot!"

February 8, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Vengir

Your reasoning looks really well to me. Although I feel the three variants are closer together on the formality scale than the English equivalents, the literal translation are pretty much that.

Note, however, that you would use a noun after "due to" rather than a full sentence. In that respect the Polish equivalent would be more like „z powodu”. For example „wszystkie loty zostały odwołane z powodu silnych opadów śniegu”.

February 9, 2016
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