"Rwyt ti eisiau tost a menyn."

Translation:You want toast and butter.

February 10, 2016

8 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/AnUnicorn

Does anyone else hear a phantom /d/ at the start of this sentence, or is it just my ears deceiving me?

February 10, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Dim-ond-dysgwr

I think it's just the effect of the "trilled" Welsh r.

March 26, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Salsmachev

Can things like "Tost a menyn" be translated as "Toast with butter" or "Buttered toast" or is it that there is toast and there is butter, but they are separate?

May 27, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Dim-ond-dysgwr

Interesting question, Salsmachev! Just for clarification, here are the literal translations:

  1. Tost a menyn = Toast and butter
  2. Tost รข menyn = Toast with butter
  3. Tost menyn = Butter-toast

No. 3 is, in fact, what you're most likely to hear for the English expression "buttered toast". As you imply, nos. 1 and 2 (which sound the same, by the way!) refer -- strictly speaking -- to toast and/with butter as separate items.

Supplementary point (hoping not to confuse you!): the parallel expression "bara menyn" (lit. "butter-bread") is used for what English calls "bread and butter" (i.e. buttered bread). This is one of those cases where the Welsh is more consistent than the English!

June 10, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Salsmachev

Diolch! That's very helpful.

June 10, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/brisa_picerem

When I translated "tost a menyn" as "a toast and some butter" it got corrected as "a toast and a butter"; is there a reason I shouldn't be using "some" or is it a glitch? A whole stick of butter sound excessive for a piece of toast, but what do I know about Welsh cuisine...

July 5, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Dim-ond-dysgwr

Looks to me like (a serious) glitch, since "a toast and a butter" isn't even English!

July 6, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/brisa_picerem

I thought so. I realize I could easily have translated it as "toast and butter" or perhaps even "buttered toast" (though wouldn't that ideally be "tost menyn"?), but I just think "a toast and some butter" sounds better.

Anyway, thank you so much for your reply!

July 6, 2016
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