But in English, you could still use these for something distant. I could be talking about North and South Korea and say, "These countries are like brothers, always fighting over the most trivial things." I could also say those instead. I think this is why to could be this or that. In English, there just isn't a strong distinction between the two.
But those can be a lot more.. Exclusive. Kind of like when someone says "you people". To me, "Those people sacrifice people" sounds different than "These people…"
I am speaking about these animals/ I am speaking about those animals. In English you would use these phrases interchangeably to mean the same thing. I don't care about the these/this & those/that difference it's just ridiculous - stop with the overzealous policing of English grammar here its getting really ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ tiring.