https://www.duolingo.com/ove_sundberg

Replace "Fluency" with "Hours" (Feature Request)

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It would be nice if Duolingo were to track the total amount of time a user has spent doing exercises.

This would allow users to compare their "Total Hours spent studying language X" with whatever goal they might have.

Since nobody seems to understand Duolingo's "Fluency percentage" box, they could just replace with it with this "Total Hours" box, whose meaning is self-explanatory.

How would you guys feel about this?

February 11, 2016

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https://www.duolingo.com/Z-Pen
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What happens when I get up to make tea in the middle of a lesson?

February 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/ove_sundberg
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Most likely, if you're "away from keyboard" for more than 60 seconds, it would time out. There's plenty of variations to that, too, such as "afk for more than 3 minutes, timeout and subtract the last 3 minutes"

February 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/rspreng

But the numbers of hours spent has nearly nothing to do with how much of a language a person actually knows. I don't care how many hours a person has put in, whether in language study, preparing a sermon, cooking a meal, studying for an exam, doing homework, whatever. I want them to be able to demonstrate competency in a meaningful way. Let me hear you converse, listen to your sermon, taste your food, etc. if you want to keep track of your hours, get a watch.

February 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/ove_sundberg
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I gather you have no curiosity about how much time you've spent studying. I think others might, though.

February 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Rob2042

Yes, what counts is what you can do with what you learned.

February 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/lucky101man

You see I do agree with you entirely. However, I would find a weather widget more usefull than the fluency badge. At least the number of hours would be somewhat interesting - if not slightly frightening.

February 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Rob2042

This is a good point. Sounds like it would be too easy to cheat. If they want to give a percentage of fluency it should be done with tests.

February 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/ove_sundberg
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The "time" score should be private. No incentive to cheat when you're the only person who knows your "time"

February 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Rob2042

I would be for it but only because anything is better than the fluency shield. Still think actual percentage of fluency based on testing would be better.

February 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Windrammer
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Depends on the tea.

February 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/TheQueenZerelda

Or when I step away for a second and come back two hours later...

February 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/rockerbox
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I would absolutely love this. While it wouldn't be exact to the minute, it'd definitely give more gratification than a fluency shield that is not accurate. However, while good in theory, I feel that this would be difficult for the website designers to create. Hopefully they'll consider trying it!

February 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/kittoburito

I completely agree, tho it would be cool.

February 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/iwc2ufan
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A cool idea. I agree the fluency score is pretty pointless.

February 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/NickR613
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How about the number of lessons done, including restrengthening.

i.e: Spanish: 347; French: 34 or Total: 381

February 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/ChristianofPeace

This would be great.

February 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Sierrajeff

Isn't this already captured by the XP, though? i.e., if you do more lessons than someone else, you will have more XP, as well as having spent more time. I don't see utility in tracking the time component separate from the XP and/or # of lessons performed.

At a minimum, I'd much rather that they spent their time implementing other things (such as restoring the "Words" tab or implementing flash cards), than this unnecessary gloss.

February 12, 2016

[deactivated user]

    Great idea:)

    February 11, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/Luscinda
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    Terrible! I know I spend too much time online but that might be too much to cope with.

    February 12, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/jeanknox99

    I like the fluency percentage. It gives me incentive to write words down so I learn them, and to explore all the exercises. It does not go up awhile, and then it does after some extended work, little by little.

    February 12, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/RandomTed

    The thing is, it doesn't work for some people.

    Since I completed the French from English tree, I started the English from French tree. I finished that tree, and made it gold and kept it gold. My fluency rating has never gone above 7%

    February 12, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/bolletjeb

    I agree, jeanknox99, a timer wouldn't be useful at all. If someone like you (and me too) tries to strengthen the language by writing things down to repeat, instead of just rushing through the tree, he/she will be "punished" by a timer because of not being active at the actual DL lesson for a couple of minutes, while at the same time he/she is seriously busy strengthening what was learned.

    February 13, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/mbalavi
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    Why not? Should be pretty easy to implement. Maybe people can cheat it, but it won't break anything for the people who use it seriously...

    February 12, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/HuShifang
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    I like the idea. To avoid cheating, perhaps equate a given exercise (or number of questions) with a set amount of time. And, couple the hours stat with results on a certification exam.

    February 12, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/lordpilgrim

    sounds good to me. the fluency thing is a bit of a superfluous distraction.

    February 12, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/Pawsycuddles

    Yes, great. Though I'm not sure if a lot of people are familiar with the concept.

    Well, I read an artical a few weeks ago. Said something about spending a 1500 hours gets you a 1A or something? (Don't take my word for it though)

    February 12, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/Luko.
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    Great idea!

    February 13, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/YoungSpice94

    why is there a link to a language certification page in English for German natives but not one for German for English natives?

    February 12, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/ove_sundberg
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    No idea, I don't work for Duolingo. But you could post a new topic for your question in the Troubleshooting forum. Good luck!

    February 13, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/lucky101man

    XP/100 = Hours

    Rough, but reasonable. I wouldn't say it holds true for someone doing a lot of translation though.

    February 12, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/ChipW2

    As we all agree the Fluency number is pointless, and I'm not sold on the timer idea either. Why not just rename the Fluency number what it appears to really be - the percentage of the tree completed. Then we know if we are 30% of the way into the tree, or 83% completed with the tree. Or just get rid of the pointless thing.

    February 15, 2016
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