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bod vs fod vs mod

  • 1747

I just saw these sentences:

Dw i'n meddwl bod...

Dw i'n meddwl fod...

Dw i'n meddwl mod...

Nothing indicates for me, that the b would have a soft or other mutation, is there any dialect difference?

What is the difference? Is it because the personal pronoun? mod is for me, fod is for you and him? Not clear, because I saw the same for me with both variations (bod and fod)...

February 12, 2016

5 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EllisVaughan

Dwi'n meddwl mod used to be "Dwi'n meddwl fy mod i" and so means "I think that I am".
Dwi'n meddwl bod-Dwi'n meddwl ei(f)/eu/ein/eich bod hi/nhw/ni/chi so "I think that she/they/us/you(formal) is/are/are/are".
Dwi'n meddwl fod-Dwi'n meddwl dy/ei(m) fod di/o so "I think they you(informal)/he are/is".
You will sometimes see all of these with bod because since the possessive has gone some people do not mutate "Bod". For example I would never say/use Dwi'n meddwl mod unless I had put the "Fy" in before hand, but I would use "Dwi'n meddwl fod" by itself with out the "Dy/ei(m).
This is just what I can think of maybe others will have a better way of explaining why.

February 12, 2016

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  • 1747

OK, so I am just "lazy", I can use only bod, wthout any problem? :)

February 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ibisc

In informal (some would claim 'lazy') Welsh you will often hear people say bo instead of mod/fod/bod:

  • Maen nhw'n dweud bo SiĆ“n yn ddiog

  • Fe 'naeth Sioned ddweud bo'i chariad newydd yn gyfoethog

February 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/eino81
  • 1747

OK, dw i'n deall nawr. Diolch yn fawr :)

February 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/owngrfld

I may be wrong but I think that only first person triggers the treiglad trwynol (bod>mod), then only masculine and second person singular causes soft mutations (bod>fod) and the rest remain the same.

e.g.

Dw i'n meddwl (fy) mod i'n iawn

Dw i'n meddwl (dy) fod di'n iawn

Dw i'n meddwl (eich) bod chi'n iawn

Dw i'n meddwl (ei) fod e'n iawn

Dw i'n meddwl (ei) bod hi'n iawn

Dw i'n meddwl (ein) bod ni'n iawn

Dw i'n meddwl (eu) bod nhw'n iawn

March 12, 2016
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