Arabic for English speakers
I was wondering if Duolingo will offer Arabic for English speakers as I find that it is a very helpful and effect way to learn a language. Do you think that there is a chance of this happening and if so, approximately when do you think it would be available?
It seems like having an Arabic course for English speakers is eventual, we just don't know when it's going to happen, but there are good news:
1) The (English for Arabic) speakers course is up and running with 2.6 million learners, the team that built that course has learned a lot and is excited to start the Arabic course.
2) Luis Von Ahn, who's Duolingo co-founder, commented on the subject on Quora:
Are you still up for it? The course is in the incubator and it looks it only has 6 contributors :-(
it looks it only has 6 contributors
Which is quite a lot.
The more contributors the harder to keep consistency (hence quality/coherency). Of course, an equilibrium has to be found between enough to advance at a decent rate(°) and not being too much to ensure easily coherency/consistency, hence not having to redo other contributors' work.
(°) which cannot be seen by us, not all the work is done in the incubator, hence the percentage doesn't mean a lot + the automatic percentage computation made by Duo is flawed.
Thanks! This is good info. Any idea how can we find out more about the course from the contributors?
AND just noticed your reply by accident... are we not getting notifications when someone replies to comments?
If the contributors need/want to share something, it'll be on the course's incubator status page (the link you gave here, for Arabic from English course).
But they'll probably concentrate more on constructing the course than on sharing about their work to construct the course. ;) So I wouldn't expect too much messages (if any).
are we not getting notifications when someone replies to comments?
If you have mail notification activated, yes, you receive an email each time someone comment on a discussion you follow (and when you comment in a discussion, you automatically follow it.
There is no (more) other notifications.
Yes Duo will teach it one day (as for Chinese, Japanese etc.).
But there are technical issues to make the current system work with those script (which are not latin alphabets, and for Chinese and Japanese not even alphabets) when it comes to teach those languages. Duo is working on making the system able to teach them but they are a small team and it takes time.
Thus not possible to know when and my guess is that not even Duo really knows. The day they'll know it'll probably be very few days before they'll add it to the incub= once everything works.
What technical issues exist for Arabic for English Speakers that hold it up?
English for Arabic speakers and French for Arabic speaker are already released, and Hebrew for English speakers, which also has a right-to-left alphabet, is 3/4 of the way through alpha test.
English for Arabic speakers and French for Arabic speaker are already released
Those are courses from Arabic, so they're not impacted but the issues to make the system compatible (see here for some details) to teach Arabic.
Hebrew for English speakers, which also has a right-to-left alphabet, is 3/4 of the way through alpha test.
Yes but it's a different alphabet. So there are apparently some problems specific to Arabic script not yet solved. Otherwise I'm convinced Duo would have already put Arabic in the Incubator.
Has Duo ever actually said that the script is the problem, though? Or is it just an inference?
I think they did in the forums but can't be sure.
But I know for sure (since I just read it again) that they said in an incubator discussion that they were slowly making progresses on teaching languages with non-latin scripts.
Which thus implies that it wasn't doable with the current system at the time of this comment. Since then they've been able to make the system compatible with some non-latin script but not all.
But it also comes from knowing how works the incubator (cf. the few explanations in my previous link) and thus knowing that teaching from a language is no issue but teaching the same language can be.
because no progress has been made with the course recently
Not sure to follow you. There are no course teaching arabic in the incubator thus there has never been any progress visible to us about any course teaching Arabic thus about the feasability of it.
So there is no "less progress" recently than ever (about teaching arabic) from what we can know not being a staff member, as far as I know.
Interesting. Why would Arabic prove more difficult than Korean, which has entered the incubator, and uses its own alphabet? Perhaps the Arabic team could pair with the Korean team...
The other day I saw a post of the English for Arabic speakers team in the incubator, check it out!!
Which it also should be in my opinion.