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I don't understand why "I'm asking mum for a new mobile phone" isn't accepted. In both cases - the English and the Polish - you don't need to say MY mum as it's implied that she's your mum.
This is dependent on the dialect, there are many versions. "mum" is accepted as well.
no, it's not? saying that as a native speaker with 40+ years of experience...
Well, then share some examples to the contrary!
Anyway, it's true that there is nothing in the Polish language itself that implies which mother is implied, it's all in the context. But I feel that Polish speakers use "my mom" less often than English (especially if it's an object in the sentence) and let the the listener figure it out themselves.
Do not get to atteched to translation of prepositions. Especially when English ask for and ask about are different Polish verbs. Ask for is prosić (o+ accusative), Ask about is pytać (o + accusative)
Can prosze also mean begging? Not used here just the meaning of the word.
Given the fact that "matka" is really quite formal (while 'mother' is more formal than 'mom', but still pretty neutral), we want the default English translations to be "mom" for "mama" and "mother" for "matka".
"mother" is still accepted, of course. Actually it's a choice of Duolingo programmers to accept it automatically whenever "mom" is accepted.
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Can this not be "I ask mum/mom for a new cellphone"? If "proszę" has to be translated continuously ("I am asking"), why so?
The accepted answers are: [cellphone/cell phone/mobile phone/cell/cellular phone/cellular/phone/mobile/mobile telephone].
Lol, "коморка/komorka" in Russian is like a very small house/apartment.
in Polish also (komora,komórka=chamber western regions "kamera" and kamera means camera), and additionally biological meaning
Angielski używa zaimków dzierżawczych (mój, twój, etc.) o wiele, wiele częściej niż polski, niemalże zawsze. W sumie słowa takie jak "mom", "dad", "grandpa" czy "grandma" to mogą być niemalże jedyne wyjątki, gdzie nie jest to totalnie obowiązkowe. Można tutaj odpowiedzieć "mom".
Is 'komórkę' here in Accusative case? If yes, does the verb 'prosić' always takes a noun in Accusative?
Well, it's not that surprising, actually, as the English sentence also requires 'for'. Of course, you could also say something like Proszę cię, powiedz coś (please, say something), but now there's no 'for' in English either.
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I am a native Spanish speaker and in Spanish we don't use any preposition with the verb "ask for". That's why sounded weird to me, I Guess.
Ah, I see. Grammatically, you definitely need a way to distinguish between the person who is being asked and the thing you're asking for. I can see how 'proszę coś' might seem logical, but the accusative is already used for the mother, so you either need a different case for 'komórka' or a preposition. Well, and Polish chose the preposition to tell them apart.
If I'm not mistaken, it would be "Le pido a mi madre un móvil" in Spanish, where the recipient of the request is distinguished by the preposition 'a', whereas the object (móvil) doesn't need one anymore. So, it's the other way round here.
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Yes! You're right, but in Spanish is like that because the accusative that refers to persons and animals needs the preposition "a". That´s why I say "Yo amo los libros" (I love the books) and "Yo amo a mi madre" (I love my mother). Interesting, right?
