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Reading letter "o"

Hello there, I was wondering are there any rules regarding how to read letter "o" in words? I noticed that sometimes you read it as A, and sometimes as "O" . For example:

Этo - You read it as ETA. Хорошо - HARASHO

Why?

2 years ago

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It has to do with stress. If the letter о appears in a stressed syllable, it is pronounced as о. If the syllable is unstressed it is pronounced as а. In хорошо the stress falls on the last syllable. EDIT: This is a simplification. See Margusta and chirelchirel's comments below for a more accurate rule.

2 years ago

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+1 for hedgehog

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It is ёжык)

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Actually, ёжик. Ж and Ш cannot have Ы after them, only И.

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Спасибо)

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What about "золото"? Золата?

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I prononce золото like Vapaamies does. It seems that this rule doesn't work)

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Thank you, Margusta. That helps a lot. A lingot for you. :)

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Thank you very much! :)

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Now this is interesting! The voices on Forvo seem to differ slightly too. The last one seems to pronounce it according to the "rule". From which part of Russia are you?

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Isn't it that the further from the stress the vowel is, the more they merge? 'О' next to the stressed vowel is closer to 'о' than the last one, which is clearly more 'а' sound. That's how I learned it in uni. Hence, it's impossible to tell if one is really pronounced exactly as it should, because there's no exact correct way, just close enough.

The same goes with е and и.

It is quite interesting, that the first voice in Fovo, arina, approaches Finnish 'ä', not 'a'. Vapaamies does this a bit too.

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Saint-Petersburg. Vapaamies lives in this part. The last one is from Ukraine

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It does say that the last one is also from Russia. Is there "High Russian" the same way there is High German and RP (in Britain)?

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I don't think so. All of them sound ok to me. I can't see the rule here.

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Maybe it has to do with how a and o are pronounced in my mother tongue, but the last one seems to pronounce it as a. The Russian a and o for me are in-between sounds. They are slightly different from the way I pronounce them when I am using my native language. This may explain why I hear this sound the way I do. I checked the way the word is spelled in IPA: ˈzolətə . So instead of a there should be a schwa-sound.

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The last one prononce it as а. You can say золото, золата, золота, золато... it would be ok. but what about the rule?)

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Perhaps we should call it a general guide line rather than a rule. :)

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I'm from Saint Petersburg and I think Vapaamies says it reeeeally weird. Like someone trying to imitate ancient accent from Vologda.

2 years ago

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Perhaps → :
ЭТО [э:та] || ритмическая модель: TATA [ta:ta]
ХОРОШО [хъ.ра.шо:] || TATATA [ta.ta.ta:]
МОЛОКО [мъ.ла.ко:] || TATATA [ta.ta.ta:]

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No! My grandfather was from Russia, and he said that:

МОЛОКО [мъ.уло.ко:]

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На местном диалекте?

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I think this video explains it well https://youtu.be/oiXh_BKIZyc?list=PLF4CWx5QycQ2TxSXiYTsG3jZHUaAp_DW3 Watch all three in the series :)

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I know why is that. We have two cases: If the accent falls on the letter "o" then we will pronounce letter "o" as "o". In the other case, we will pronounce letter "o" as letter "a". For example: молокo' _malako, сло'во_slova, окно'_akno,...

2 years ago

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Another discussion of this from a week ago.

2 years ago