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Swearing (?)

Is there, or will there ever be, swearing in duolingo lessons?

Not necessarily really bad phrases, but some expressions to notate a negative feeling about X?

4 years ago

41 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/rspreng

If you want to swear, in just about any language, Google is your friend. I'd rather see Duo put effort into other things.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Chooley.

Don't use google translate as that's WAY to literal! I read (i don't know if it's true) that swearing is used quite a lot in spain and I know it's ALWAYS used in Italy so you need to know swearing in Italian if your learning it!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/fishysteph

I agree that google translate overall is way too literal, but you don't have to use google translate to find swear words/slang words. You can just do a basic search for the words and there are sites that have included those. I just had to use one last night when someone used a swear word in spanish that I had never heard of and it turn out to be a regional way of saying that word. I agree that Duolingo has so many other things it could be doing (like expanding the tree/lessons) than creating something that we can do with a simple search.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
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I would love that. Some people have raised the concern before that there are younger students here. Maybe having 'not too bad' expressions in here would be a temporary compromise. At some point maybe Duolingo will create different sections for underage learners and than we could have a 'proper' swearing section as well. I would love that :) However, I think the team has other more important stuff to work on for the moment....so we probably have to be patient about this :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CecilieO.

When a foreigner visits norway, they usually asks to learn a few phrases. -Hello. -Thank you. -One beer/cheers. -Swear word(s)/bad words.

It's always nice to be able to say that you have a really terrible day, or that the taxi driver behaved like an ass... just as examples.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
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I totally agree. I enjoy swearing as a form of expression, and therefore do not think much of it in terms of it being 'bad' or such. I think though, and I said this elsewhere, that europeans are somewhat more relaxed about swearing than e.g., north americans.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot
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https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
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lol, I am sure they swear at each other a lot. Probably off camera though, but I swear (pun not intended) they know how to swear

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
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Jack, probably true. They do not swear at each other at least. I think I have seen news reports from other countries where politicians literally have fist fights with each other in the parliament building...Forgot where that was though :)

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https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot
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https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot
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https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
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yes something like that. I had a feeling it was somewhere in asia but did not remember the exact country :). Certainly more ...eh 'passionate' than what I am used to with politics, lol

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gnorian

Maybe make it a lesson you can buy with Lingots...? I don't know. I think profanity should be handled carefully.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lenkvist
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I am not at all interested in learning profanities. A couple of weeks ago I took a some Polish lessons because I had to experience language lessons from a student's perspective. Some of my peers, who knew that there would only be five lessons, immediately asked to be taught some profanities. To which the teacher replied that when people told her that they already knew some Polish, it would always be a number of swear words.

It's nice to call profanities a form of expression, but for most people they are just curiosities to be used mindlessly. I am here to learn a language. If people want to learn profanities, I am sure a quick internet search will satisfy their cravings. That will save them the time of creating an account and learning such mundane things as constructing full sentences.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
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Profanities are one thing, a natural use of swear words another. Many languages use them a lot in every day language - so if your goal is to understand and speak a language they are a crucial part in some countries, believe me. I think the way to go here is to make it an option at some point. Even if someone would not want to use them themselves I think it is essential to understand them in many situations when you actually are in another country. In many languages swear word simply replace words like "very" to stress something. Sure I could google it. I could also buy a book to teach me a language myself. But of course I would much rather have to option to learn it in my favorite platform of all :) As I mentioned before, people seem to get offended by this, so I do not realistically see it happen. But I would be missing out in a lot of funny nights if I did not understand english swear words :). My five cents. I agree though there are other priorities for the team at the moment. I just wish we would not completely rule some basic swearing out. Maybe even towards the end of the tree so only committed learners can choose (!) to do this lesson.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CecilieO.

I was doing the ideoms, when I thought to ask for it. And really, a lot of swearing is ideoms and strange expressions. I want to learn a language, including all the quirks, not just the ones rated "clean". In worst case, they could just label that lesson explicit ;)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
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true!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/wataya
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Thanks, Lenkvist. I fully agree.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot
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I agree with both of you..

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlmogL
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I'm sure there are interesting, amusing, fun ways of expressing negative opinions and emotions in every language, that are not profanities. These can be a lot of fun to learn.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sakasiru
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I support that idea!

I also think that it can't hurt to know some profanities, since you will hear them anyway, so at least you'll know what is said. But I'm not sure a lesson is appropriate; maybe we could find some native speakers who teach us.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rspreng

Given that Duo is often criticized for how it handles regionalisms in Spanish and English, and given that swearing has great regional variation, I don't see teaching 'swearing' in Spanish as a viable concept. Look at the use of 'coger.' And don't tell someone in central Mexico that you need 'chaqueta'!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/eszamp
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coger is definitely an important one to be wary of, hahah. comer too.

On a side note I'm totally down to teach anyone Argentine specific slang/swear words. :P

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rspreng

Having spent some time in Argentina, I know they use some interesting 'expressions' there. ;)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Chooley.

Also another thing swearing in spanish is different in different spanish speaking countries for example something in Mexico is different in Peru and that is different in Spain!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlmogL
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On second thought, I would certainly not want to see any offensive language in Duo, in the sense of racist, misogynistic, et cetera. I think this rules out many swear words and phases... this is tricky.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Chooley.

Well they should make it optional then and also the DuoLingo team (luis von Ahn) was interviewed by benny lewis and it says somewhere in the video that they are thinking about doing a swearing section! Here is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLSpEbLu-lY it's in spanish with english subtitles

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Wolhay
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There's still plenty of scatalogical and religious swearing to use.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Chooley.

yep but thats the language and if you don't like it don't use it!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Wolhay
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I'm guessing that you meant to respond to someone else.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Chooley.

no

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Chooley.

no I was just saying that!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Charlie2014a

I'm Irish and our version of English is often very colourful in more ways that one. For a site that embraces regional language differences and acknowleges that we should all be respectful of where others are coming from. It could be seen as hypocritical to have a a blanket ban on colourful language. I'm a fan of enriching langauge through appropriate use of words and recognise that what is accaptable or 'correct' evolves. Of course users should also be free to inform others that they prefer not to be address too colourfully and to block any such conversations or exchanges.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TaylorMacAwesome

Not only swearing but is Duolingo going to incorporate parts of the anatomy that people deem to be dirty? I'm doing French now, and I'm wondering if at some point I'm going to learn the words for 'penis' or 'breast' or 'vagina' as well as other body parts? I think profanities are important parts of the language to learn as well, because if I were to ever go to France I can't expect everyone there to have a clean mouth. I'd like to understand as much as possible.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rachael.cr3
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I'd be fine with it as an optional lesson, like Idioms or Flirting. Then people who don't want it can choose to skip out.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/iustitia
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In most cases when I spoke with foreigners and they found out that I'm Polish they were all happy to tell me that they know some Polish phrases - and yes, in most cases it was swear words, sometimes basic phrases like "hello", "cheers" and so. That was sometimes a bit weird and I didn't feel well about it, but I wasn't offended.

Another thing is that in Polish swearing is pretty common and it gets more common. I guess what wasn't acceptable on TV 10 years ago, now is considered to be ok. A lot of people swear, but only in casual talks. Unfortunately in public places you can hear it a lot - what is most awful when I am with my little cousin or I see mom with little kid.

And finally - I guess it is nice to know swear words of a language. You can at least get a grasp what locals say. Especially when you feel that they are talking about you...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot
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the firsrthing I learnt in Polish was Kapusta glowa which I thought was hello. I went about a week in Bieszcady thinking the Polish were happy and cheerful no wonder I was declaring I had a cabbage head to everybody

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/iustitia
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Lol, no wonder :) But still everyone is happy when foreigner tries to learn their language :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot
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Yes it was all in fun Lovely

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/yimantuwingyai
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I think it might be a turn off to younger learners. I turned my eye doctor onto this site and he intends on going through lessons with his six year old. Which is awesome! So I think you're better off just using youswear.com Yes, there is an entire website where you can learn to swear in ANY language!

4 years ago