Tell me how you study and learn?
Hi all, I'm trying my best to learn Russian. My home tongue is English..
So for those of you in the same boat, what are your methods of study??? Being in New Zealand, I don't have a wide base of people who speak Russian, so I can't practice with anyone. :/
But I'm interested in what methods and tricks you use to help remember words and tricky grammatical rules, and any advice you can give me would be great!
Let it flow! :D Спасибо!
First off, I ask questions regularly whenever there's something I don't understand. There's nearly always a helpful native speaker or advanced learner who answers quickly, and they're pretty good at giving explanations I can understand.
Second, I listen to a lot of Russian folk music. It's good listening practice, I enjoy it, sometimes I can almost understand it. And it gives a lot of cultural insights as well. If you're interested in links, ask me or Theron126. :-)
Third. Use it whenever you do have the opportunity, even if that isn't very often. One of the best ways to learn is to start speaking and not being afraid of making mistakes, so take advantage when you can. You can also look for conversation partners on conversationexchange.com, italki, Verbling, gospeaky, and a bunch of other places.
Fourth. Find audio books. Here's one of my favourites. It's from the Russian translation of Winnie-the-Pooh. :-)
Fifth. Use Immersion. It's not technically there for Russian, but there is a way around that lets you use it, and it's a great way to practice. Let me know if you want to know more about how to do that.
Sixth. Do a lot of review. I find that long words and tricky grammar rules don't stick in my head unless I review them over and over and over again. I recommend keeping your tree gold as much as possible until you finish it, and even then, if you can manage it, I would still advise keeping it gold for a while.
Seventh. Write things down. If there's something you're having trouble with, a word or a rule, write it out. This will often help to stick it in your brain.
Eighth. Don't worry if you make mistakes. There will always be someone happy to help you figure out what you did wrong and explain it nicely. And sometimes making the mistake is the best way to remember the rule.
And lastly, have fun! :-)
PS: Sorry this is such a long post. You got me on a subject where I had a lot to say, so I started saying it, and when that happens my posts just get longer and longer and longer... :-)
I think that you have provided some really good advice. I also use other online sites to strengthen my grammar, bought some Russian books to read (mainly cookbooks) on eBay, and made some vocabulary and grammar flashcards. I find old-school paper flashcards work better for me than apps like Anki or Quizlet, but they are still potentially useful.
I have also been practicing Cyrillic script using sample sheets (прописи) from this site http://www.gakish.com/russkij-yazyk/propisi-russkij-alfavit.htm. I use these sheets to practice Cyrillic cursive and review vocabulary at the same time.
I'm glad people find it helpful. I think you've covered just about everything I forgot there. I also do all those things. :-) Thank you for the link! I am going to find that very, very useful. :-)
I have my own method. It's something I've been wanting to try for a long time. Before this I didn't have enough knowledge of linguistics to try it thoroughly, but I've often tried to do it anyway. This is the first time I'm trying it for real.
I analyze things to death. I hate learning things by heart, I prefer to understand the processes. So yesterday I read about how the phonetic and morphological system has developed in Russian. I often find myself asking "why" when I learn a language. Now I hope I already have some answers for when I try to learn the case system or verb aspects. I love grammar, so I pay a lot of attention to that. I also love etymology, so I'm constantly looking for connections to other languages (which also helps me understand why certain things are the way they are). I've made charts of noun cases (gender and endings), of word stress patterns, of different phonemes… I still have more charts to do! (adjectives, verbs etc.).
I, too, listen to music a lot. Right now I'm listening to Zemfira's album on repeat. I'll listen to it until I start to expect songs and bits of lyrics before I hear them. Then I know I have internalized something of the Russian language and will look for another album.
I've been doing these things for a week now and every night I dream of the Russian language (not in Russian), so apparently my brain is prosessing everything even though I haven't actually tried to learn any vocabulary yet :D
How come? And that happened to be the only music I currently have in Russian.
Her texts are very difficult for understanding. They are philosophical, discrete and abstractive. May be she is usefull for phonetics, but I wouldn't recommend her for study russian. I'm sorry my english is not good, because I didn't understand the second part of the message. :(
Она сказала, что единственные русские песни в её плеере - музыка Земфиры.
И ваш английский очень хорошо! Мне кажется, что это лучше чем мой русский!
Your Russian is very good too, :) but more correctly is "И ваш английский очень хорош! Мне кажется, что он лучше, чем мой русский!" But these changes are trivia :)
I simply keep doing it every day. I keep the tree brown by lots of practice. I never worry if I don't remember the details and just keep on doing lesson after lesson. Have fun learning.
I am not learning Russian....regardless of that, ... my method might be a bit different but it works a lot for me.
First off : the relaxed approach, never feel stressed if you don't know a word or conjugation, or whatever. Just go with it, if there's something you don't know insist on learning it.
I always am one step behind. So let's say I finished lesson 11, next up is lesson 12. By the time I finished lesson 12, I would've forgotten some things from lesson 11, but I leave it like that for a day or two (in this time I would've probably reached lesson 13). As such, I always don't remember the last 1-2 lessons, but I review them constantly after those 1-2 days. This makes for a great light-speed learning, as you don't stress about forgetting a lesson, but rather look forward to reviewing it, just remember that you don't review the lesson AT ALL until the 1-2 days end.
Now, vocabulary. I keep a DL deck for every language on Anki (which I update regularly) and a "random" deck which has random words I find on the internet/songs/videos/texts/ etc....
Finally, if there are some lessons or words that I just can't remember (no matter what I try) I just use the inefficient (last resort) "over and over" approach, where I spend all night looking at the word and its meaning, have a 5-minute break, do it again, and so on (be sure to have less than 10 words, just to make sure you don't mix them up) . By this methos, you can even dream that word/lesson, and it becomes impossible to forget it.
Even though I mostly learn German, I still have a way. I record the words and phrases I have learned on a notebook and refer to them once in a while. Good luck! I'm from New Zealand as well!
I make flash cards and I try to strengthen my skills as much as possible. It helps me be more fluent I hope it helps you to , never give up .
I've been doing this: http://www.memrise.com/course/173195/top-10000-words-part-1/ , which is great for pure vocabulary, and works a bit like Duolingo. It means you already know some of the vocabulary on Duo when you see it, which makes it a bit less intensive!