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*Dw i eisiau/angen* and *Dw i'n moyn*

This has come up quite often in various 'Sentence' discussions around wants and needs. Here is a summary of what is going on.

With eisiau/angen there is no yn after the verb. This is a common usage all over Wales. It is an exceptional construction with these two nouns when used is this way:

  • Dw i eisiau car newydd (I want a new car)
  • Dw i angen car newydd (I need a new car)

But, using the verb-noun moyn, as found in some regions of Wales:

  • Dw i'n moyn car newydd (I want a new car) - 'n/yn is required in the usual way because moyn/mofyn/ymofyn is a verb-noun (wanting/to want).

[In some more formal text you will occasionally see a construction which explains what might be going on with the nouns eisiau and angen :

  • Dw i ag eisiau lifft - (literally 'I am with a want of a lift')
  • Mae e ag angen arian - (he is with a need of money)

and perhaps what has happened is that the expressions are so common that the â/ag has been dropped from common colloquial usage (and so Duo may not accept the construction with ag even if asked!).]

A more common, more formal construction with eisiau and angen is with the use of ar:

  • Mae angen cymorth cyntaf ar Dewi (Dewi needs some first aid)
  • Mae eisiau mwy o arian arna i (I want more money)
February 27, 2016

5 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/CodyORB

Thank you! This helps.

February 27, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/mizinamo

Ahh! The origin with â makes sense to explain how "dw i eisiau" would work grammatically.

Thank you very much! Go raibh maith agat! Diolch yn fawr! Gromerci dhis!

February 28, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Meiriona

Thanks a lot for this comment, I had not seen it before - and surely I should spend more time on the Welsh discussion board for your explanations. That's a little bit more clear now !

June 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Leighton772099

So to say i want a coffee would be Dw i'n moyn Coffi instead of Dw i'n eisiau Coffi! Is this correct?

August 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/mizinamo

Dw i'n eisiau coffi is not correct, but you can say either Dw i'n moyn coffi or Dw i eisiau coffi (without 'n).

August 14, 2018
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