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Will learning Dutch be hard?

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/valjohnanderson

Supposedly Dutch is the closest language to English. Maybe if you go back 500 years. It is a pretty difficult language, especially since most Dutch people speak English and quickly switch to English so they don't have to hear us slaughter their tongue. Some of the sounds in their language are different than anything in English and have proven difficult for me. They have some words that even the Germans can't pronounce well. The word "Scheveningen", the name of a town/beach was used during WWII so they could tell who was a native speaker. I am glad to have Duolingo so I can work on it in private. I am sure that if I can even gain a modicum of Dutch language ability it will surprize my Dutch friends, all of whom are wonderful people.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Johannes-001

> most Dutch people speak English and quickly switch to English so they don't have to hear us

As a beginner I found that "switch to English" one of the most difficult things about speaking Dutch in Holland. For me at least -- it took a bit of courage, time and persistence before I could really even begin to have any type of a conversation in Dutch. The "switch" can be somewhat intimidating. Also helped a lot when I was able to find someone sympathetic, or at least tolerant, or at least a captive audience, hahaha, to my interest in speaking.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/valjohnanderson

Agreed. My wife and I lived in the Netherlands for a bit over a year and had a great experience but did not do very well at all at learning the language. When we lived in California we had a Dutch foreigh exchange student live with us and that didn't help with learning Dutch either, but, the good news is that I am making substantial progress on learning Dutch with Duolingo and it is fairly painless and even fun progress.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Johannes-001

I have had some occasions to be somewhat pulled into speaking Dutch in Holland which have been very pleasurable, but they have been much more the exception than the rule.

I found this from DutchNews.nl to be a quite interesting question and observation:

"How Dutch have you become? Between speaking the language, eating the food and raising a family here, I’d say I’ve become as Dutch as I could. However, as a foreigner you can do everything possible to integrate but there’s a kind of glass wall that prevents you from ever becoming truly Dutch. You can be a familiar outsider, but there’s something about Dutch society that never really lets you 100% of the way in. I think that comes only with being born and raised here.

Read the full article at DutchNews.nl: ‘The Kröller-Müller museum in Arnhem is a real gem’ http://www.dutchnews.nl/features/2016/02/84806/

So, it seems like there are some real sociological issues that contribute to how how hard it is to learn Dutch

I don't know but imagine this kind of glass wall barrier may only have intensified with the recent refugee situation.

Yet for some reason there is something I find intriguing about learning Dutch, and possibly finally becoming somewhat bilingual, even if it is most likely to be more of an intellectual pursuit as opposed to anything resembling an immersive social experience.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/valjohnanderson

Do you mind me asking, Where do you live in the Netherlands? My wife and I lived in Naarden and had a wonderful experience there. We are still friends with the neighbors that shared the twee under een cap.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Johannes-001

It seems like it would be great to live there for at least some time, but I never have. What I'm referring to above came from the article I linked to, and isn't my personal experience.

Naarden sounds mooi!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CJ.Dennis
CJ.Dennis
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Frisian is closer to English than Dutch, and Scots is closer to English than Frisian, but you may not have heard of those! English has its roots at least 1000 years ago.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lovetulip

i don't know which language is your native language. I am a Chinese whose is learning Dutch for one week now. I am level 6 in duolingo for now. Some Dutch pronunciation are very hard for me. But the most important thing for learning language is to communicate , i think. So I hope I can talk fluently (not perfectly) to the Dutch people in the near future. keep fighting!!!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/P.E.D

I speak English, Thank you!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ngarrang
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Thus far in my learning of Dutch, I have found many aspects of it easy to learn. As pointed out by others, you are going to find a lot of words that are the same or very similar between Dutch and English. Also, make it a point to pronounce every word as you learn them and will also hear many words that we use in English, but with a different spelling.

The simple present tense should not present much of challenge, but if you are like me, the present perfect and passive voices are going to mess with your head.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/P.E.D

Thanks so much

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Miloskuki
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it is hard language, but if you love it you can learn it. ;)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/P.E.D

Thanks, I am learning German and French and was also wondering if it would help me learn them a little better too.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JohanVanderbalij

Actually, the pronunciation is quite different between these languages. And it's German which is the harder one, not the opposite.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Miloskuki
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No problem ;).Pronunciation of Dutch is very similar to German, and words are also similar.DER JONGEN(Dutch)-DER JUNGE(German).By the way this mean BOY in both languages, and Dutch is harder than German.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Isoldhe
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It's 'de jongen' in Dutch :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Heilswahrheit
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I have to say that Dutch and German are very dissimilar phonological. They don't sound alike. Dutch is very similar to Afrikaans though, maybe a bit more guttural. Dutch is, like Afrikaans, structurally similar to German. That's where the similarities are greatest. German is, however, significantly more complex than either of those two languages.

6 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/P.E.D

Thanks tons

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/semquintero

for me this language was really easy to understand! It took me a long time to get to lvl 10 but I got the flow of it and tried my best. Hope you have fun

voor mij deze taal was echt makkelijk te begrijpen ! Het kostte me een lange tijd om lvl 10 te krijgen, maar ik kreeg de stroom van het en probeerde mijn best . Ik hoop dat je veel plezier

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/emak02
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Hoi, vind je het goed als ik wat zinnen verbeter? Sommige zijn te letterlijk vertaald :)

Het kostte me een lange tijd om lvl 10 te krijgen, maar ik kreeg de smaak te pakken en ik doe mijn best. Ik hoop dat je veel plezier beleefd aan het leren.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/semquintero

have fun and keep trying

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/P.E.D

Thank you!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Cristi_Here
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I just started to learn it and from what I've seen on internet, yes, it is, but from what I've seen while trying Dutch myself it's similar to English in many aspects, and when it isn't, don't worry, you'll find German cognates ! The grammar seems hard, especially all of the irregularities, but as time passes you (and I) will get to understand them all :)

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