https://www.duolingo.com/Lupa

Learning tactics: careful learning or rushing?

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I start to learn spanish on duolingo more or less 3 years ago. At the beginning there was a heart based system - so I was forced to learn everything perfectly in order to pass the lesson and go to the next stage.

Since one year there is new progres bar learning system - so it's a little bit easier to pass the lesson, but even after that change - i was still trying to learn everything after going to new lesson. First I was making all my skills to gold status, then I was going to next ( new ) lesson. Next day I was repeating this, so again I was making first all my skills to gols status, then again i started to learn a new skill. It was ok for a while - it helps me to remember better the basics, but after some time it was more and more boring to repeat all these skills in order to make them gold. So I change my tactics - I start to rush and don't pay attention to the non-gold skills. I made a big progress in the skill tree but I'm not sure if it's the best way of learning.

I was always thinking that slowly learning is better, but I also seen that if I'm rushing with the skill tree then my brain started to catch the words faster everyday.

What is your way of learning ? are you rushing forward to finish the tree as fast is possible or you preffer to go slowly and try learn slowly but accurate ?

2 years ago

13 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/AgentLJG

I actually just started spanish and don't know much about the best way to learn it, but i would love to hear more ways that would help me. Its good to see so many experienced people i can chat with and ask for help! Good luck learning more espanol!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lento_Rodriguez
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I'm a rusher, I've done the Spanish tree three times now. I just can't do it slowly, I'd get bored and quit. the first two times took about a month each and the third took three weeks, I think I could have done it in two. I'm blasting the reverse tree now.

The lessons build on each other some so you practice the early stuff as you go anyway. I'd rather do the tree twelve times in a year that once a year. For one thing after I finished it the first time I was able to read some even if I was terrible at it and that is great practice. If I took a year to do the tree I would have just been on the fourth or fifth skill instead, just learning how to say "the ducks eat rice" or something.

The second time I did it I would write down the skills that gave me trouble and I reviewed them some for a few days even if they were gold, but I wasn't going to go back and re-guild something like colors or whatever when you practice stuff like that in the other skills anyway.

I figure you aren't really finished until you can score 5/5 on the progress quiz so it doesn't really matter if you do it a bunch of times fast or once slow. Or if you do it one time fast and move on to something else that's cool too because you will learn a lot that you can build on.

My progress quiz scores keep improving every few weeks and I can see myself improving as well so I figure I'm okay.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MichaelHallbck

I rushed through the tree in about two or three months, and can't really see any serious downside with it.

Of course, if you binge learn some days and score 300+ XP you can expect to pay for it later by having lots of levels to regild at the same time with longer and longer intervals. That is, if you're serious about keeping everything golden.

Perhaps it would have been better to keep a steady pace, since if you don't have the time to strenghten earlier levels you risk your skills dropping out of your long term memory to such a degree that your original learning investment becomes more or less wasted. If you wait too long it can become like starting from scratch again. Repetition should be the key.

I guess one has to accept the fact that our brains have their limitations, it takes time, effort and lots of repetitions to learn a language.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheQueenZerelda

There are pros and cons of both approaches. If you go through slowly you can learn things more thoroughly but it can get boring. If you go through quickly there is more demand to remember things and you might remember things faster but your understanding of it might be shallower.
I think Duolingo isn't a one stop shop and my preferred way of getting through the tree is to do it at a comfortable rate (not necessarily fast or slow), doing new lessons when I bored but going back to review when I don't know something I need, then go use those words somewhere else. Read, listen to music, etc. Then, redo the skills as you find a need for them. For example, while reading you notice that you didn't learn the past tense conjugation very well. Go back and practice that skill till you feel like you have it down, then use it.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/redneckray

"What is your way of learning ? "

Wrong question, almost everyone thinks the way they practice is the best way or they would change.

The right question is--what is the most efficient way of learning?

If you read here regularly you will notice the large number of people who are here because although they've had several years of language learning at school they can't hear nor speak the language.

If you read here regularly you will notice the large number of people here who have zipped through the tree and, guess what, can't hear or speak the language.

I'm old, I remember when dirt was invented, I haven't much time left so I have every reason to rush.

But I rush as slowly as I allow myself and I listen to Spanish and I practice my diction and create sentences in Spanish.

Does that work? Naw, I want it to be more faster, but I can often get the gist of things on television and newspapers.

TV and newspapers, that's a hint.

Semi-immersion.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Graciasssss

Hola Lupa! ¿Por qué no tratas de escribir todo tu comentario en Español? Eso te daría una idea de tu nivel de aprendizaje. Si quieres practicar tu writting te recomiendo la web Lang-8, ahí puedes encontrar nativos como yo que gustosamente y gratuítamente corregirán tus errores. Y tú podrás corregir ensayos en Inglés. Además de hacer los ejercicios de Duolingo te recomiendo que aprendas un poco de gramática; eso te ayudará a construir estructuras gramaticales correctas. Escucha canciones en Español, mira series o documentales en Español. Sumérgete en él y poco te darás cuenta que entiendes más y más cuando escuchas hablar a alguien. Y para finalizar lánzate a practicar tu speaking. Trata de hablar con alguien, esa es la mejor herramienta.¡ Sumérgete en el Español totalmente! Espero que te ayuden mis tips de hecho yo entro en los foros escritos en inglés para prácticar y aprender de vosotros los nativos de Inglés.

Saludos!

Jose

Hello Lupa! Why you do not try to write all your comment in Spanish? That would give you an idea of your level of learning. If you want to practice your writting I recommend you the web Lang-8, there you can find natives like me who willingly and freely correct your mistakes. And you can correct tests in English aswell. Besides doing exercises on Duolingo I recommend you learn some grammar; that will help you build correct grammatical structures. Listening songs in Spanish is a good exercise, look series or documentaries in Spanish. Immerse yourself in it and soon you will realize more and more that you understand when you hear someone talking. And finally throw yourself to practice your speaking. Try to talk to someone, that's the best tool. Immerse yourself totally in Spanish language. I hope my tips help you actually entered in the writings forums in English to practice and learn from you the native English.

Best wishes!

Jose.-

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Sam_Oleson
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I moved slowly. I only moved on to a new lesson if all my previous lessons were gold. There were weeks when I would only log on to strengthen my skills just to log off again. Because of how often I reviewed the lessons I feel very confident with the lessons. Now that my tree is finished I still keep it gold and I will be starting my reverse tree soon.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rwreed
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I just learned something new in another thread that might affect your choice. Apparently although DuoLingo gives you mostly translation exercises from the target language to your native language when you go through the lessons, it then starts to shift and give you more exercises the other direction as you review those lessons more.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/M_Alrehaily

I've just finished my English tree an hour ago. I didn't follow a specific system or method. I was just doing my daily 50 XP and leave, but when I noticed some of my skills are getting non-gold every few days ..I started re-golding them, and I was doing that every time I see non-gold skills, but a few days later .. I realized that I make no progress just re-golding some skills and gain some XP. after that .. I decided to move on to the new lessons until I made it to the end an hour ago, I think I'm going to re-gold all my non-gold skills from now on !

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KuduBiltong

It's horses for courses. I felt like I was doing an awful lot of skill strengthening and did try not to rush through the tree, but I still finished it in 18 days and would have been bored otherwise. The downside is that I'm now finding it hard to find the motivation to keep moving up the levels. I'll carry on for a bit longer, at least until I've mastered the verb endings, and then move on to a different way of learning. Maybe Italki.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ReenaCathleen

I like to do a couple of lessons everyday, followed by some skill strengthening. Right now, which is just over a month, I am at 50% fluency and 3/4th of the way to completing the tree. I don't remember everything, but with regular practice I find my vocabulary has improved, though I am still struggling with grammar.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/IsanamiMarushi

I go for a little at a time (3 lessons a day), but I try to make the most use out of what I learn to make it more fun.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tammythree

I go slowly. My tree is gold from the first go round, but I realize that it is based on my previous experience with the language and no actual skill. I then repeat each lesson, sometimes up to 20 times. I want to feel it, not translate, so this works best for me.

I watch a lot of Spanish-speaking television too. I'll have the English subtitles on, but will rewind and put it on in Spanish. If it's in English, I'll have the subtitles on in Spanish. Then in the car there is Spanish radio.

2 years ago
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