"Dydd Santes Dwynwen"

Translation:Saint Dwynwen's day

March 9, 2016

10 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/enfys76

I was always told this was St Valentines Day???

March 9, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/EllisVaughan

Nope they're both different saints, Dydd santes Dwynwen is celebrated on the 25th of January. It's a really good story if you can find a version.

March 9, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/enfys76

What I mean is: Is Santes Dwynwen a translation of St Valentine, or a Saint herself whose Day happens to fall on the same as St Valentine's?

March 9, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/ibisc

Two different dates, and San Ffolant is the Welsh name for St Valentine (all two or three of him!).

March 9, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/enfys76

Hmmm......I'm not convinced that my answer is incorrect!

March 10, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/JamesTWils

The story of St. Dwynwen is a romantic one, so I believe there is some connection with romance. Someone might very well have said that St. Dwynwen's Day is the Welsh Valentine's Day, but I would think that is a bit like saying Canada Day is Canada's Fourth of July--two different holidays with different origins, though some similarity in one aspect.

March 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/enfys76

Great answer - thanks for this. But how could someone unfamiliar with Welsh culture - and a welsh language learner - possibly know this? I'm not a fan of it but Google translate says it's Valentines Day. Oh well. Next!

March 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/mizinamo

I'm just amused at someone trying to use "but Google Translate says" as any kind of reasonable argument.

Google Translate says a lot of stuff, much of it wrong, inaccurate, incomplete, or only valid in certain situations.

March 13, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/eAnnAe

I don't think we are expected to know about Welsh culture, but maybe our interest will be aroused enough for us to dig deeper. Try this for starters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dydd_Santes_Dwynwen There is nothing wrong with not giving a correct answer. Apparently, we are more likely to remember a sentence/phrase if we get it wrong first time.

July 8, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/JamesTWils

Well, just from my point of view as someone who doesn't know Welsh or very much about Welsh culture (though a certain amount about saints' lives), it was pretty straightforward to translate Dydd Santes Dwynwen word for word as St. Dwynwen's Day, while there's no way I would have recognized it as Valentine's Day, if it were that. There are a lot of these that seem utterly capricious to me, but this one seemed comparatively fair.

March 13, 2016
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