"El salón"
Translation:The hall
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Let's see if I help or make this worse. This gets complicated with people having dens/family rooms/living rooms.
I am discussing the use of these terms in the home. The sala is the main room in the home where the occupants of the house spend most of their time 'hanging out. This is the living room, although some people have family rooms or dens that serve this purpose.
The salón is a large room where guests are received. You can sit and have tea/ drinks, chat, play parlor games or whatever. So this is more like a sitting room or parlor, although people with family rooms/dens will often refer to this as the living room. For some people, these will be the same room. It depends on the age, size, and style of the home.
As for those curious about the English word salons, this is the same word. Salon/salón in general is a space for guests to be entertained. This eventually evolved in some places into a place where a host would gather 'fashionable people' to refine their tastes whether it be art, fashion, philosophy, etc. This is why the most common English usage of the word refers to the studio of a hairdresser/cosmetologist. The stylist hosts you and refines your style. This isn't the only meaning of the word; it's just the most common. Salon in English is still a reception area for company. It's just less common in this general meaning.
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It's an entryway where you remove boots, hang cloaks, & park umbrellas. I think a "vestibule" is slightly larger, and folks actually congregate there to meet & greet before entering the inner living area. In case you were wondering. But don't quote me on either, it's just what I recall from my youth...
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So for the translation "hall" - what kind of hall are they referring to? Since the other translations are living room and sitting room, I'm guessing it means the more archaic definition of hall as the main room in the house or a large function room, as opposed to a hallway/corridor.
It sounds as though 'hall' is meant in the way of a great hall un a medevil house, not in the modern usage of hall short for hallway, a corridor of of which are other, larger rooms.
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I learnt hall as el pasillo. But apparently la sala is also the hall. It does not mention el salon on Spanishdict. Anyone native to help with this?
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Hello my native language is Spanish, and La sala is the living room, el salón is a closed place where the persons meet, or also el salon is frequently used to say the classroom. Hope this serves.
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In the UK we have "village hall" and "town hall", typically buildings with a room or rooms for community meetings and activities.
We also have "school hall" or "assembly hall" - a large and usually tall room where all the school pupils and staff can fit in at the same time, and which is also used as a theatre, concert hall, dance hall, and for any other purposes that require a large indoor space, and it sometimes doubles as a gymnasium, and it is often used (and I won't dwell on it!) for examinations.
And, of course, we have sports halls that, in some cases, have expanded to enormous stadia each of which could accommodate several of the villages that I started with.
I teach in a dual language immersion elementary school (English and Spanish) and for us "el salon" is a classroom... The hallway is "el pasillo."
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"Hall" and "hallway" are not synonymous. The former can mean the latter, but in this case it's used in the sense of a meeting room.
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timstellmach, I agree; we do usually shorten the word hallway (passageway), so "hall" does have two very different meanings. We use other words WITH "Hall" to describe PUBLIC Convention Halls, etc., as another person mentioned.
I would bet in 95% of average U.S. homes built since 1900, halls are short, windowless passageways leading to bedrooms, bathrooms, or utilitarian areas like laundry rooms or basements -- not at all like a salon! I would also bet very few people in the U.S. have a room they call a "salon" in their homes. (Quizas the very wealthy!)
We normally give "salon" a connotation for far smaller public gathering places, where groups discuss things among themselves (or get their hair & fingernails done), rather than a "hall" where speakers talk & audiences listen.
Sala is the living room or family room, classroom is aula or salon de clases
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May I add to that, Alwyn? The drawing room is not a place where one draws pictures; it is an abbreviation of withdrawing room.
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Good to make that clear; rogerchristie. I would bet 98% of people in the U.S. do not have a "withdrawing" room, or even know anyone who does! A lot of us may have spacious houses, but most are very informal. In fact, to throw in a few idioms here, some guys may have a room where they might "withdraw" with their buddies to watch sports or play billiards, & it's called a "man cave." LOL!
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I'm sure no-one has a withdrawing room. Even the dictionary says it is archaic. However it is the origin of drawing room. Withdrawing room is dated back to 1591.
Having said that, withdrawing room still gets many more dictionary entries than man cave. :-)
Exactly the same happened to me and "salón" MEANS "living room"!!! Let´s report it to Duolingo then to help improving the programm!
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I believe that "salón" alone does not have that meaning in Spanish, though the term "salón de belleza" (beauty salon) does exist.
That said, "salon" in English also means "drawing room," and should have been accepted for that reason.
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The word salon was also used historically to refer to a particular room of a house that best corresponds to the modern living room.
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For those wondering what the difference is between la sala and el salón, it seems like salón is typically used for larger spaces.
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I thought the same thing dzyanna. In Australia the 'lounge room' is just as common (if not more so) than 'living room'. Duolingo should really consider adding this as a translation
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Here in the Dominican Republic, I have only heard the word "salon" used to describe a hairdresser, which I used in the singular form and was marked wrong. Most Dominicans I know would not have a hall in their house though.
Does anyone know if this word is used more for "Hall" or actual hair "Salon"?
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Caminar is to walk. Pasar is to pass. I think of por (an adverb) as meaning "through" in the sense of "by way of" (either spatially or metaphorically), and a traves (an adverbial phrase) as meaning "through" in the sense of "across" ("to traverse").
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I wish to add another possibility: "Pasamos cerca de..." http://www.linguee.es/ agrees that this is "We walk past..." and is rarely wrong.
Any native speakers out there who can confirm this?
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I think so. When my Dominican friend has her hair done she says (in Spanish) she's going to the salon.
