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Difference between "tio" and "tiu"

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I have tried looking it up, but I didn't come across a clear explanation as to what the difference is between tio and tiu. Can anyone help?

March 18, 2016

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https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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For sure check out Granda Urso's link - but even the short answers there are kind of long. Here's my short answer.

Tio - ends in O which reminds us of nouns. It generally denotes a thing. It answers the question "kio" (what). It generally stands alone. (Tio estas mia - that is mine.)

Tiu - answers the question "kiu" (which). It always has a noun after it - expressed or implied. Kiu [pomo] estas via pomo? Which [apple] is your apple. Often the implied noun is "homo" - Tiu estas mia amiko" That [person] is my friend.

March 18, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/BastouXII
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So, tio is a demonstrative pronoun and tiu is a demonstrative adjective?

Or tio is "that" and tiu is "that one"?

March 18, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/BasCostBudde
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I'm inclined to say: both are ways to see it. 'tio' really is 'that thing'. 'tiu' can be 'that one' and 'that person'

March 18, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/BastouXII
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I guess tiu could be "that one person" also, then?

March 18, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/BasCostBudde
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Yes. Make an example. Mia frato estas tiu kiun vi vidas tie. Tiu dekstra de la du.

March 18, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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If you know what demonstrative adjectives and pronouns are then yes. That's an even shorter one. The trouble with "that" and "that one" is that they mean different things to different people. Sometimes that explanation helps. Other times it does not. If it helps you, use it.

March 18, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/BastouXII
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Well, English is much more confusing about the distinction between pronouns and adjectives because they are the same word, used differently. Many languages use different words for those, including my native one : French.

March 19, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/mizinamo
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Yes. If you equate tio = cela and tiu = celui-là, I think you won't go wrong.

(And, of course, tiu xxx-o = ce xxx-là.)

March 19, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/varigby
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I have trouble with this too. As I remember, "tiu" is used to emphasize "that particular one". I guess, it's a bit like the English: "That one, there!"

conorjh, in the link below, points out the link between kiu/tiu and kio/tio; tiu answers the question "which" and tio answers the question "what".

March 18, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/GrandaUrso

https://www.duolingo.com/comment/12607261 I had this question too, they really helped me out.

March 18, 2016
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