Doubts about learning languages on internet for academic purposes
Hello, I want to learn French for academic reasons and I have my doubts about learning on Internet. -Some of you guys have noticed a change in your language skills? I am not reproaching Duolingo or any other website!,I just want to know your opinion about using internet for learning languages for academic purposes -do you think it could really work out ? (for me is so important read your opinions , thank you)
a similar discussion is taking place in another thread. Here is the link: http://www.duolingo.com/comment/1443270
My answer is, yes, it can work if it suits your learning style. Right now, online learning is my only option because I am very ill and cannot attend classes. I've tried several other online learning resources but they didn't fit my learning needs. Duolingo is the first online resource that has kept me engaged (for 111days at this point). I do not acquire languages easily or as quickly as some. But at this point, I am able to have small conversations and read BBC News in Spanish (I still have to break out the dictionary, but that's just vocabulary as DL teaches less than 3000 words.) Good luck on your journey! I hope you find some of your answers in the link I posted above. ^_^
Yes similar discussion, but my main focus is on languages for academic purposes. Because it is possible that you can hold a conversation, but for you going to a college, they will ask you for a test for your languages skill, so to that test is what I am afraid of. And I speak Spanish native if you want we can practice :D
I started DL in late June, and started taking a college class in mid August (I had never taken Spanish in High School).
The college class was a breeze (I received a grade of 100 overall), and while others struggled, I didn't. So, I think DL did a great job of teaching me college material.
I took Spanish in college a very long time ago. I would say that if you learn (long term memory) all the material on your Duolingo tree, it would cover 1 to 1 1/2 years of what I learned back then (or tried to learn, classes moved to fast for me).
Duolingo is not a hands on college course but will help you learn enough to have a small head start. I hope you are getting better from your illness :)
Indeed, and that is a good point to emphasize it is not a college course. It lacks several things that a college course has, such as the live interaction (often) with a native speaker, extensive grammar overview, and a different learning environment. I tried to phrase it to show that the particular course that I took, covered a much of the same material that my Duolingo tree did, minus a little more vocab and the other things I mentioned earlier in this same post. :)
If someone has the option to take a college course or Duolingo, I would (ignore that it was an either/or question and) suggest taking them both simultaneously. ;)
Edit: I forgot to say, thank you. I'm pretty sure it's permanent. But, there is the chance for improvement in quality of life, and hopefully I am headed in that direction. :D
I really appreciate your concern and I will see if it can be brought up with one of the experts. Academically I don't think duolingo would be 100 percent reliable but it would be a guide to learn and understand casual talk. I really think if you are passionate enough, you can bring duolingo to the next level. Good job and keep it up!
Personally, I have found Duolingo more useful for my academic needs than for my conversational needs.
Academically, I am currently reading a developmental psychology text in Spanish (Pensamiento y Lenguaje by Vygotsky), and ever since I've finished the Duolingo Spanish tree about a week and a half ago I've found that I do not need to reference either of the two English translations I have. I've also begun writing some of my academic papers in Spanish as well (mostly homework assignments for my Foundations of Bilingual and ESL Education university course).
Conversationally, however, I am having a more difficult time. I can hold a conversation, but I frequently need to ask the person I'm speaking with to slow down. I have plans to go to Mexico to build my conversational skills before I take the exam for my bilingual teaching endorsement, as this is something that I cannot receive from Duolingo.
Thank you for your answer, I think that Duolingo has strong materials for learning to read well too
Learning on the Internet is different from learning in classes. If learning on the Internet works for you, then you can cover in a matter of months what would barely be touched on in a few years of advanced language classes in schools, but if the classroom setup works better for you then you may end up trying to learn online for months before giving up because you still don't understand the present tense. It's all in different learning styles.
Learning via the Internet IS possible though, since there is more than enough information, with many websites devoted entirely to the grammar of whatever language you're learning, YouTube channels, resources to practice your language skills, audio and video content with simpler language and slow speech to make things easier to understand, and a lot of native content for when you're at a higher level.
Online learning used properly, by somebody who learns well that way, can be significantly better than a classroom. You can learn faster and better, because if you don't understand something then you can pause and take forever drilling it until you do, but when something comes perfectly to you you can just keep sprinting through until you hit a snag. On the other hand, if you aren't the type of person who learns well this way, then you may never find a good source of information, or you might be focusing so hard on getting something perfectly learned that by the time you're done with it you've forgotten the rest of the language, or you might speed through the language until you have no clue what's happening anymore and then get discouraged and give up.
Meanwhile, I've met some people who can't handle classrooms. They get so bored in the classroom environment that as hard as they try they can't focus on what the teacher's doing. They need to learn through other methods, such as online, because it's so much easier for them that way. On the other hand, I have also met some people where they thrive in the classroom. The automatically absorb what the teacher says, and they remember it. Most people that I know fall in between, though. They can learn in the classroom or they can learn online. For these people I've noticed that if it's something that they're really interested in, they do extremely well just flying through all of the information online, but if it's something that they find to be boring, then they will do a lot better in school because the structure keeps them from falling behind.
I may have gone on a bit too long, and strayed a little off-topic, but this is my opinion of Online learning.
If 'academic reasons' means passing a reading test for graduate school Duo can be of great benefit. If it means an emphasis on conversational skills, Duo is helpful but you'll need to lean heavily on other resources. 'academic reasons' is pretty broad ;)
Yes so I probably should consider learn the conversational and listening skill abroad, thank you for your answer