https://www.duolingo.com/profile/linguafiqari

Esperanto for English speakers?

I know that Esperanto isn't spoken by loads of people, but I was just wondering if a course for it would be created? Because maybe if it was on Duolingo more people would learn it, as it is helpful for learning a language later on (Similar verbs to those found in French, Spanish and Italian, as well as other languages - Dormi = To sleep, Povi = To be able to)

It may be nice to see more people speak it, as it was intended to help communication between people, and the word for Esperanto in Chinese is even 'World language' (世界语).

January 10, 2014

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Seth_H

Judging from the Esperanto flag in this image:

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From: http://www.duolingo.com/comment/868354

I imagine that it will be made eventually. The main challenge is finding enough fluent speakers.

January 10, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/iustitia

I don't think that finding fluent speakers is the main challenge in case of Esperanto, as one can learn it within approximately one year :) Comparing to any other language that takes years to getting on fluent level (with strong grammar and so) it is pretty simple.

Mi ankaŭ volas lerni Esperanto. (= I also want to learn Esperanto).

January 10, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/linguafiqari

I believe it's Esperanton (Accusative case)

January 10, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/iustitia

Dankon. Mi estas komencanto :) (Thanks. I am beginner.) Even this little of grammar may cause troubles :) As you can see I need Esperanto course! So please, Duolingo, make one ;)

January 10, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/linguafiqari

The accusative can be confusing, especially as although it's in German you can get away with not using it if the noun is feminine or neuter, but with practice it can become second nature :)

January 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Athenicuber

until the course comes out, i advise you check out the esperanto official website http://esperanto-usa.org/ and sign up for online courses with an email tutor.

February 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Athenicuber

sorry, i got to the second lesson, and it kinda sucks.

February 25, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Athenicuber

esperanton (objective case).

February 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aleksescomu

Here you have other courses... you'll have to choose the one that best suits you

Mazi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWbyXVSiCxw&list=PLD5AF0C2305A8D6BA Pasporto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVyut5BV3kE Ana Pana https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFSXJp1H-_g

http://lernu.net/ Program http://www.kurso.com.br/ http://pacujo.net/esperanto/course
Universala Metodo (image course) http://edu.i-lo.tarnow.pl/esp/lern/uem/index.php Teach Yourself Esperanto PDF: http://goo.gl/UiWjx The esperanto teacher PDF: http://bit.ly/The_Esperanto_Teacher_PDF http://www.esperanto.org/angle/kiel.html

and more with a simple search https://www.google.com/search?q=learn+esperanto

and here a big group (+13 000 members) to practice with, you'll find skype groups and so on https://www.facebook.com/groups/esperanto.grupo/

Jes, mi parolas EsperantoN :D

February 27, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Athenicuber

I started the lernu course!

March 19, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Seth_H

Perhaps, I should have said fluent natives. Anyway, I can't wait to learn Esperanto! I've heard some schools teach it before teaching other foreign languages, because it is a good start for getting used to speaking and grammar for a language that is not your native.

January 10, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/iustitia

Definitely it is hard to find natives, but I think natives are not necessary for it since the person who speaks it well and fluently speaks already like a native :) This language was born to make it easier to communicate and eliminate culture background and all complex grammar that puts natives as better language users than those who learn it :)

January 10, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Seth_H

I know, but Duolingo tends to prefer natives in its courses. Although, that will probably change for the constructed and dead languages. I guess we'll have to wait and see :)

January 10, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Seth_H

@Jonathan-- there are not very many.

Quote from the Wikipedia article, Native Esperanto speakers:

Esperanto is not the primary language of any geographic region, outside of temporary gatherings (such as conventions like the World Congress of Esperanto) and isolated offices (such as the World Esperanto Association's central office in Rotterdam). Consequently, native speakers have limited opportunity to meet one another except where meetings are specially arranged.

Read more at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Esperanto_speakers

January 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JinxLeRai

In response to Jonathan below (I saw no "reply" link under his comment), yes, there are quite a few native Esperantists out there. Probably the best-known is George Soros. The general idea is for it NOT to be anyone's native language, though; but rather a second language for all (who are interested).

January 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MystyrNile

In considering exceptions to rules, one must consider the motivation behind the rule. Why do they prefer natives? My guess is that it's because a native would know what a native would say, and could inmediately recognize anything "odd".

But that's not a big deal in Esperanto. Speak literally, follow grammar rules, and don't forget the power of compound words, and Esperanto will go well for you.

March 19, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aleksescomu

No need to search, they are on Facebook waiting for the duolingo administrator to let them begin https://www.facebook.com/groups/esperanto.duolingo Here you have 12 000 members, with a description full of courses, videos, music, radios, dictionaries, groups (about jokes, skyping, language doubts, cooking, national groups, etc.), events, etc https://www.facebook.com/groups/esperanto.grupo/

January 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Athenicuber

Why can't they begin?

March 19, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aleksescomu

Cause it's not our turn yet... it's gradually

March 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Athenicuber

what do you mean "it's not our turn yet... it's gradually"?

March 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aleksescomu

it's not our time... we'll start later, when the duolingo team tell us to begin. Kiel disvolgiĝas via lernado? ĉu vi komprenas min?

April 29, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MystyrNile

"jes" is yes in esperanto :D

May 1, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Athenicuber

Si Da Ja

April 30, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/0liwia

Hey, does anybody happen to know if there's an official pronounciation for Esperanto? If yes, how does it sound like?? It's supposed to be a "global" language so I don't really know how I expect it to sound

January 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/linguafiqari

There is a set pronunciation for each character, which is followed strictly, due to it being a phonetic language (each character is spoken exactly how it sounds).

For instance the letter 'c' in Esperanto is said 'ts' in every word

  • celo is said tselo

  • internacia is said internatsia

Or the letter 'j', which is said as 'y':

  • jes is said yes

  • juna is said yuna

English isn't phonetic - take the word school - the s, c and h are all said as sk, not their individual sounds separately.

January 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aleksescomu

PHONETIC TRANSCRIPTION to Esperanto, more or less (English has a lot of sounds and different pronounciations):

hej, dos enibadi hapen tu noŭ if ders an ofiŝjal pronaŭnsiejŝn for esperantoŭ? Hey, does anybody happen to know if there's an official pronounciation for Esperanto?

If jes, haŭ dos it saŭn lajk? If yes, how does it sound like??

Its supoŭst tu bi a "global" lengŭejĝ soŭ aj dont rili noŭ haŭ aj ekspekt it tu saŭn. It's supposed to be a "global" language so I don't really know how I expect it to sound

February 5, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Bollywould

It sounds a little like Italian.

January 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pizzaluver

which one is the Esperanto flag? The green one?

January 14, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Seth_H

Yes

January 14, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RatInAMaze

I found myself to be, uh, partly fluent in Interlingua without taking a single lesson.

January 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JinxLeRai

The general idea behind Interlingua is that it is a pan-Romantic conlang intended to be able to be read by speakers of many different languages without them having to put any effort into actually studying it first. I believe the reasoning behind this plan was so that scientific works and related documents could be published in an internationally accessible format without having to be translated first. AFAIK it was never intended to be a spoken language, but merely a form of sharing written information easily between those who already comprehend one or more Latinate languages. Of course, its intended purpose has not brought it a lot of success, but I do think it fulfills that function quite nicely!

January 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Yamx

Not to draw people away from Duolingo, but until they get an Esperanto course up and running, there is already a website to learn Esperanto for free: http://en.lernu.net/

January 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/anniethingelse

Wow, thank you! wonderful resource!

January 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Yamx

You're welcome. Have fun. :)

January 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/stecchetto

Mi esperas ke jes. ;-) It's nice not having to memorize grammatical genders of nouns (I'm looking at you, German) or loads of different verb conjugations including irregular ones.

It might also be useful as a lingua franca like you say, although it does have to compete with English and other languages in that regard. And of course to be a lingua franca more than just English speakers have to learn it, so there also needs to be Esperanto for French speakers, Esperanto for Russian speakers, Esperanto for Arabic speakers, etc.

January 10, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ontalor

Part of me thinks that Duolingo will become the biggest business in language education, and once Esperanto is on here, people will realize how easy it is and how effective it could be to help communication, and it just becomes more and more popular from there. UNESCO has already admitted that Esperanto could be a major tool in global communication. It just needs more speakers to make it worth the time for people to communicate information in it. I'm keeping my hopes up!

January 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Athenicuber

(I'm looking at you, German)

Or Swahili, with eight genders!(None of them being Female or Male!)

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sommerlied

The "English for [__] speakers" direction is usually done first. :)

January 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Athenicuber

The reason for that is because of the need to learn English for jobs and stuff, but there are very few Esperanto natives, which gives no need for En for Es, so the Es for En will probably come first :-)

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/caselthor

I played around with the link you provided and found this: http://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/en/hi/status

Do you know what other languages they have waiting to be released?

January 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sommerlied

There are already dozens. In fact, they already prepared so many that it's difficult to tell which one will go into development next.

January 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ontalor

This and the Russian for English speakers course are the two I'm most excited about. I think there are a ton of people like me who would love to be able to use Esperanto more fluently but don't have the language resources or motivation to figure it out without a resource like Duolingo.

I'm definitely an Esperantist; I think it would make a better world if we all communicated with a much easier second language, but until that looks like a possibility I'm just going to recommend it because it helps your brain learn second languages a lot faster. :)

Edit: I like that you mentioned that the Chinese name for Esperanto is 'world language', because a Chinese friend visited me once and asked what I was doing, and I said ‘我在学世界语’, 'I'm studying Esperanto/the world language' and her response was ‘我以为英语是世界语', 'I thought English was the world language.' It was a funny pun to sort out.

January 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HerrArbo

If everyone spoke a native language and Esperanto as a second language (plus any other languages of course) then do you think the internet should be largely Esperanto to make it more transparent? Would this not runthe risk of killing Duolingo? I do not think that this will happen but I really think esperanto should be the worlds second language, and not English. :)

January 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ontalor

I think large parts of the internet would still be in natural languages, people always prefer using their native language to communicate, but instead of "international" sites being in English, they'd be in a much more accessible language. And it would be much easier for companies and sites to simply have their native language version and an Esperanto version for the international community.

And I don't think it would kill Duolingo. Even if Esperanto was already popular, I think a lot of us would still be here learning other natural languages because many users just like languages, and communicating with someone in their native tongue will always have more flavor and life to it. But having Esperanto would prevent the kind of English hegemony that's occurring now in which others are forced to adapt to another natural language and the worldview that comes with it.

January 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HerrArbo

Just in case anyone got the wrong end of the stick, I wasn't saying foreign languages would be any less important or less popular, I was just saying, “Woo, Go Esperanto!”

January 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/iron_bun

There are plenty of aspirational organisations whose basic goal is to make themselves obsolete. Every medical research charity, for example.

But even if everyone could speak Native + Esperanto, there would be value in learning additional foreign languages. If your only means of communication with people is their second language, you'll always be on the edge of the group. Just like it is now.

January 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaa-f

Having the opportunity to learn Esperanto with Duolingo is a great idea, because then we would all be on an even footing in as much as we would all be new to the language and so nobody would have the advantage of having it as his native language. As it is now english speaking nations have the upper hand in a discussion with others who do not have english as their native tongue.

January 10, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Athenicuber

Except people with Esperanto as their native language, which is very uncommon, with only 1,000 or so natives.

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Bollywould

Yes please! I taught my daughters the basics and it helped them with other language learning, but a tool like this would make it much easier for them to become fluent speakers. There are many books, teachers and others who would be ready and willing to help provide energy for projects such as this. Esperanto is the language of peace, world travel, and love!

January 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/shana22

hmm that is a very interesting language indeed. I'm sure there'll be a lot of learners for this language

January 10, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/caselthor

I hope Dothraki (constructed language for Game of Thrones) comes out before Esperanto and then Dothraki usurps Esperanto as the worldwide constructed language!

"Khaleesi, Dothraki has no word for thank you."

January 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MystyrNile

But I bet it has words for "I am happy now that you helped me.". :)

February 3, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thalass

I was thinking the same thing about Klingon, or maybe Na'vi.

May 22, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tonywangtj

Ich veux apprendre Esperanto aussi! ¡Gracias!

January 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MystyrNile

Yo sxatas Esperanton a lot!

February 3, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Andrew-Lin

Wow three languages!!!

January 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tonywangtj

HAHA! I think thats the beauty of Esperanto(Universal language) ^^

January 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pizzaluver

ok I don't get it, WHAT IS ESPERANTO? IS THERE A COUNTRY NAME ESPERANT?( or whatever) CAUSE I NEVER HEARD ESPERANTO BEFORE. (and I thought music was the universal language)

January 14, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MystyrNile

Esperanto is a language made up by a Pole in the late 19th century, in an attempt to unite people.

March 19, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pizzaluver

well he is learning 3 languages, French, German, and Spanish :}D

January 14, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/danwizard2013

this post reminds me of this vid :D http://youtu.be/e7aTabdzr5Q?t=13s

January 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AbacarGulamo

Mesa de bilhar

January 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lucianocas8

Very good

January 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sallysali9

Im ten,and because it is quite simple(1/6 the difficulty of other languages) I wouldn't mind learning it alongside Italian .

August 10, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Pa11en

Feb 16 2014 and the course is now 83% through its incubation phase. I am really looking forward to using the course when it gets to the beta phase.

February 17, 2015
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